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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GUNSNGOLD who wrote (216481)	3/16/2019 5:59:32 AM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 224890

You know, I've made many mistakes in my life, but voting for O that one time is probably the thing I regret most. It was a one and done deal. I took a chance and I can't believe it now when I look back. The funny thing is that those same instincts I have to take a chance on people is what made me successful as an exec in Silicon Valley. But that kind of experimentation/fail fast modus operandi doesn't work in politics, because mistakes can't be undone so quickly. You get labeled in politics and there are few second chances. Couldn't agree with you more on the damage that guy did and continues to do behind the scenes. I'll tell you my family doesn't let me forget that vote either. What a mistake. Having said that, I would describe myself as center-right, which you surmised. I'm a live and let live person, more libertarian than anything else, but on fiscal and monetary policy, I'm further right than even most conservatives. Too many years as a businessman to be fooled by the non-sense I'm seeing with MMT, QE, ZIRP, deficits/debt, and all those other economically ruinous things. I'm impressed with your ability to assess Myers-Briggs on the fly! You got 75% correct. I was actually assessed as an INTJ decades ago. Borderline Introvert with an ability to come across as an extrovert. I was very introverted, shy, and book wormish when I was young. But as I grew older, I decided that I liked people and had a knack for understanding their motivations, so I forced myself to learn how to appear extroverted by hanging out with those kinds of people and modeling their behaviors. I ended up with a lot of friends who were in sales, though I was more of an operations guy myself. I never lost my introversion, though. I still need my cave time with my books to recharge my batteries after too much social interaction. Anyway, I appreciate your post. Good to see there are some good human beings out there who understand that senseless division and rancor (as well as senseless censorship) don't help anyone or anything. We're all different, but we should find and celebrate what makes us the same. Keep fighting the good fight!

To: GUNSNGOLD who wrote (216481)	3/16/2019 7:14:47 AM
From: RetiredNow	2 Recommendations Recommended By isopatch TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224890

Saw your post on the thread that will not be mentioned.... Message 32072478 ...and wanted to add to what you said. That is exactly right. The neocons were a real turn off to me. They went against many conservative values, not the least of which was that deficits do matter. Cheney lost me when he said, "deficits don't matter." The Bush's lost me with Junior's endless wars, and then more recently when they sided with the Obamas and Clintons over Trump. It was Junior and Cheney that turned me off the GOP and made me think I'm not 100% aligned to that party for the first time in my life. The deep state continues to be alive and well alright and it is festering with liberals and neocons alike. I find it amusing how Trump has a knack for tying them in knots and doing what he wants, despite their best efforts to thwart him. The recent veto is a great example of that. Some of those squirrelly neocons came out of the woodwork on that bill and voted with the Dems. They need to be expunged.