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To: koan who wrote (403037)	3/17/2019 12:02:26 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542838

this thing literally goes on for ten pages — Tom Tomorrow (@tomtomorrow) March 17, 2019 pic.twitter.com/nCgEvmOqps — Tom Tomorrow (@tomtomorrow) March 17, 2019 *by "first class mail" we mean first class pre-sorted at an appropriate discount but you know, close enough — Tom Tomorrow (@tomtomorrow) March 17, 2019

To: koan who wrote (403037)	3/17/2019 12:35:11 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542838

Koan, it was Yglesias who was joking when he said, "Bernie pledged allegiance to Putin years ago in a secret ceremony at that weird Montreal-style bagel place in Burlington." He was essentially saying the same thing as Gillum but in a light hearted joking way. But the policies that people are proposing matter beyond whether the RW calls them "socialist" or not. Not everyone believes them when they are called "socialist", but when the candidate himself calls himself a "socialist", they will believe it, even though they often don't know what it means and not even Bernie is actually using it in its classic sense of the government owning the means of production. FWIW, Gillum calls himself a capitalist not a socialist and then he qualifies what he said. Which would be the right approach for every Democratic candidate, IMO.