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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (115054)	3/22/2019 10:49:15 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 357970

What is your position on the attempt to take over government by the NPV National Compact? Are you supporting that as well?

To: i-node who wrote (115054)	3/22/2019 10:59:01 AM
From: combjelly	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357970

You are ignoring the history of those statues and memorials. Few were put up in the wake of the war. Most, if not all, were put up starting in the 1920s when the rump of the Know Nothings had revitalized the Klan and were terrorizing blacks in the South. There was another resurgence when the civil rights movement started to get off the ground in the wake of WWII. If you want to stand on history, you cannot ignore the racism behind those things.

To: i-node who wrote (115054)	3/22/2019 1:02:24 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357970

That is just wrong (except for what you claim about the people you know). Essentially everyone I know believes the statue removals are idiotic, that killing your own history lacks gumption, and those things are part of our history. There is no worshipping them as heroes, they are simply historical markers. And most are angry about it, yet not motivated to stop it. I just saw The Best of Enemies, followed by a panel discussion which included one of the participants (Bill Riddick, the leader of the charrette), the author of the book, and the director-writer of the film. I highly recommend seeing it, it will have its commercial opening in a few weeks. The events of the film happened in 1971. White supremacy didn't just fade away, it still exists whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there certainly is "worshipping" those Confederates as heroes and true Sons of the Revolution, and that is what those statues commemorate. That is what is being commemorated. No doubt you don't know anyone who is like that, but there are plenty of them around. If you believe that "killing your own history lacks gumption", then I suppose you wouldn't object to placing a different statue next to the ones that were erected during Jim Crow that represent opposing points of view, along with markers that clearly explain the differences between them. That is what is being proposed in the Triangle area right now, given that the Republican legislature passed a law a couple of years saying that people could not remove statues on public property. And, speaking about history, it is a fact that Trump refused to condemn David Duke and white supremacy. He said he didn't know who David Duke was, despite the fact that it is on the public record that he and Duke had previously met and he had spoken about him years before. It isn't an accident that white supremacists support him.

To: i-node who wrote (115054)	3/22/2019 1:10:47 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 357970

I didn't SEE anyone on TV 'peacefully protesting statue removals'. I saw a bunch of neo-Nazis marching with tiki torches chanting 'Jews will not replace us'. I really didn't see even ONE peaceful statue remainer with a sign. Did YOU? Not that they meant Jews will actually replace them. They were referring to the neo-Nazi, white supremacist conspiracy theory that Jews are behind immigration from non-white origins, to dilute the power of the white race.

To: i-node who wrote (115054)	3/22/2019 2:49:16 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 357970

I did live along the Gulf coast in Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. But I don't know where your charges come from. I did not take a position on any of those things you charged so you have misdirected your complaints.