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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (115206)3/23/2019 10:56:55 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 358093
 
I >>Bullshit is, by definition, untrue.

Bullshit, in this context, doesn’t imply untruth. It may be truth but unserious. The term is more accurately defined as nonsense. Like, “I grab 'em by the Pussy.” Untrue claim but not an “assault” which numerous major news organizations accused him of.

Bullshitting also encompasses comments like, “Lock her up.” Or, “Russia, if you’ve got the emails...”

These are not literal statements. They are not lies. They are bullshit. Nonsense.

This is the meaning of bullshit, in context, and generally understood wherever I’ve been. My dad commonly used the word 40 years ago in connection with one of my friends. “He's a bullshitter.” That didn’t mean liar, it meant he talks bullshit or speaks nonsense.

You see it as a character flaw perhaps. But it is because you are an extremely serious person. (My bullshitter friend is one of the most extreme Dems you’d ever meet, and he doesn’t bullshit much anymore).

It is a term with multiple implications.



To: Lane3 who wrote (115206)3/23/2019 10:59:03 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 358093
 
When you are reduced to arguing semantics, you have lost.

I think where i-node is trying to go with this is equating Trump with the guy who self-aggrandizes and exaggerates pretty much everything he says. You know it, he knows it, and everything is fine. He is harmless as long as you know. Unless that guy has authority over you, that is. And that is an important distinction that renders Trump distinctly non-harmless.

We saw something similar with Dubya. When he conflated 9/11 and Iraq, it got chalked up by many as he just got bad intel and had nothing to do with wanting a war for whatever reason. Or a whole host of things. He had a coat of teflon until Katrina. Because he was a guy you wanted to have a beer with.

My attitude was different. He was our governor. My impression of him was the frat brother who screwed your girlfriend when she was drunk and boasted about it to the rest of your frat brothers about how he did you a favor because she had to have been a slut...

Grinning the whole time.



To: Lane3 who wrote (115206)3/23/2019 1:29:22 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 358093
 
The rule appears to be: when a Republican lies or says something that isn't true, it is just exaggeration or fun stuff that everyone gets and accepts. When a Democrat lies, it is not only a lie, it becomes a candidate for Lie of the Year and he becomes Liar of the Year.

Get with the program!