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To: waitwatchwander who wrote (7297)	1/20/1998 11:42:00 AM
From: Herbert Zlotogorski	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Can anyone tell me where the estimates on the earnings are ? Due out today at the end of the day ?? Thanks....Herb

To: waitwatchwander who wrote (7297)	1/20/1998 3:43:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

NF, I wouldn't buy methanol or gas field shares on the basis of fuel cells for cellphones. The universe is made of energy, gas fields are everywhere, methanol plants are a dime a dozen. Buy the fuel cell producer instead! Methanex might be okay. But the Maui field, which is the primary natural gas source for the Taranaki plant, is nearing depletion. Give it another 5 or at most 10 years. Even before then, the price will probably start to rise as supplies dwindle and new customers get turned off the idea of gas. Thanks for that url. Filling a battery with methanol is a lot more convenient than mucking about with electricity and recharging. Just plug in a new canister or squirt in some fuel. Power supply for phones and notebook computers remains a curse. If methanol is used in vehicles, I expect the ideal is a gasoline started and preheated engine, switching to methanol when hot. With catalytic converters to reduce emissions even further, you'd get a lovely clean exhaust, and cleaner cities. Methanol in a fuel cell on a car is a dead duck. Famous last words, but the cost seems simply way too high. I used to own a methanol car, with gasoline start and pre-heat as part of a research project by BP Oil in the early 1980s. It was fine. Somebody mentioned cars running on water. Well, there is a guy here who knows they can! Just for fun, I pulled into a gas station, put a litre in the starter 1 litre tank in the engine compartment, then asked for a litre or so of water in the fuel tank, explaining that the car runs on water, but just needs a bit of gasoline to start. The pump attendant was pretty dubious about putting water in the tank, but he did and was raving to the other guy at the station that yes it does run on water and he put it in himself. I had my fingers crossed because water is denser than methanol and although miscible, I visualized it sinking to the bottom of the methanol and me getting stuck on the forecourt. But I got away okay and the water mixed into the methanol nicely. So now there is a guy who knows that cars can run on water. Maybe that is the source of all the rumors that the oil companies hide the research which shows cars can run for free.... Life's a giggle! Maurice