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To: Shroder Wertheim (Hijacked) who wrote (8629)	1/21/1998 1:23:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Respond to of 10836

Even though ORCL said it intends to develop its own, but from its track records (TP monitor,...), I would say chances are high that project will not go well. I strongly disagree with your evaluation of Oracle's chances. If you have been following the company you would realize there is no chance whatsoever of the project going well. AH HA! HA! HA! HA! Having said that, you have to love Oracle's pick-yourself-up-dust-yourself-off-and-fail-all-over-again attitude.

To: Shroder Wertheim (Hijacked) who wrote (8629)	1/22/1998 4:47:00 PM
From: David Miller	Respond to of 10836

Sybs said it will still use VSGN ORB in its PB products This is the "client-side" where Visi were particularly strong, and also where the requirements for CORBA services are relatively light. From a competitive perspective I guess Sybase would consider themselves less exposed to continued VSGN development, and the decision would compare outbound license fees with in-house development cost, without the overtones of reliance on a competitor for future needs. I would think it will be hard to pull it out after using it. I'm not so sure about that. The point here is that ORBs are a new type of software animal - by their nature, they don't demand the same type of vendor lock-in that we have been accustomed to, and that in the past have guaranteed a period of assured downstream revenues from an OEM deal. While they are by no means "plug-and-play", they are designed to exhibit standard characteristics - their ultimate design point, after all, is not in the development labs of Oracle or Sybase or Visigenic, but in the OMG specifications. I believe Oracle will use VSGN ORB for a long time as long as Borl continue to improve it. Even though ORCL said it intends to develop its own.....I would say chances are high that project will not go well Maybe, maybe not. It's not as though they are starting from scratch, Oracle 8 already houses both an in-house developed ORB and the Visi ORB. david