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To: ggersh who wrote (148926)6/1/2019 10:22:21 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217918
 
coincidences

and sunshine is good for the swamp

and same such

<<"From the very beginning we see too much politics in it," Mahathir said in reference to the official Dutch-led investigation>>

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-31/jaw-dropping-speech-malaysian-pm-says-no-evidence-russia-shot-down-mh17



In "Jaw-Dropping" Speech Malaysian PM Says "No Evidence" Russia Shot Down MH17In unexpected statements Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has questioned the methodology behind Dutch investigators who produced what the West considers the authoritative report on the tragic shoot down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 in 2014 while flying over war-torn eastern Ukraine. He criticized that the Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team (JIT) seems "to be concentrated on trying to pin it on the Russians".

The Malaysian leader told reporters at the Japanese Foreign Correspondents Club (FCCJ) in Tokyo on Thursday “They are accusing Russia but where is the evidence?” Mahathir said his country accepted that a "Russian-made missile" shot down its civilian airliner, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew members on board, but that "You need strong evidence to show it was fired by the Russians."

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad (left) shakes hands with Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Tokyo on Friday. Image source: AFP

At 92, Malaysia's Mahathir eyes PM role for a second time

He ultimately questioned the objectivity of the investigators in what major regional media described as a "jaw dropping speech".

Australia's prime state run news service ABC News noted the Malaysian PM's speech has sent shock waves through the region as it questioned everything Australia's own leaders have said. "From the very beginning we see too much politics in it," Mahathir said in reference to the official Dutch-led investigation.

A total of 38 Australians were killed in the Boeing-777 shoot down and crash, and the majority were Dutch nationals. The ABC report summarized of the "bombshell" charges leveled by PM Mahathir:

“Based on these findings, the only conclusion we can reasonably now draw is that Russia was directly involved in the downing of MH17,” Australia’s then-prime minister and foreign minister Malcolm Turnbull and Julie Bishop said in a joint statement.

“The Russian Federation must be held to account for its conduct in the downing of MH17 over eastern Ukraine, which resulted in the tragic deaths of 298 passengers and crew, including 38 people who called Australia home.”

But in a bombshell speech to the Japanese Foreign Correspondents Club (JFCC) on Thursday, Dr Mahathir was having none of it, accusing those who blamed Russia of scapegoating the nation for “political” reasons.

The Malaysian PM further went so far as to point to Ukrainian pro-government forces as being prime suspects: “It could be by the rebels in Ukraine; it could be Ukrainian government because they too have the same missile,” he said.

Interestingly, this has been Russia's position all along, which has already led some international media sources to suggest of the deeply contrarian Friday speech, "Dr Mahathir is known to enjoy a good conspiracy theory."

Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014 – amid heavy fighting in Ukraine's civil war. Mahathir further slammed the decision to exclude Malaysian investigators from the black box examination: “We may not have the expertise but we can buy the expertise. For some reason, Malaysia was not allowed to check the black box to see what happened,” he said.

“We don’t know why we are excluded from the examination but from the very beginning, we see too much politics in it and the idea was to find out how this happened but seems to be concentrated on trying to pin it to the Russians.”

The Malaysian PM's headline grabbing comments were made in English in response to a reporter's question:




He concluded that, “This is not a neutral kind of examination” again questioning the basis on which suspicions of pro-Kiev forces appeared to have been superficially ruled out from the start.

“I don’t think a very highly disciplined party is responsible for launching the missile,” he added, according to Australia's ABC.

MH17 reconstruction, via ReutersRussia has also rejected the conclusions of the European JIT report, saying the missile that struck the civilian airliner was manufactured in the Soviet Union in 1986, and was part of the Ukrainian army arsenal at the time of the shoot down.



To: ggersh who wrote (148926)6/1/2019 10:23:46 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217918
 
the entangled-pair of the same coincidence

https://www.forbes.com/

Dutch Spies Investigate Huawei 'Links To Chinese Espionage' From 'Hidden Backdoor'
Zak Doffman

Less than 24 hours after Donald Trump signed the executive order barring U.S. companies from using telecoms equipment from manufacturers deemed a national security risk—read Huawei—Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant broke the news that AIVD, the country's intelligence agency, is investigating whether Huawei "may be involved in Chinese espionage in the Netherlands."

Not a good week for Huawei.

"Huawei is said to have a hidden back door to the customer data of one of the three major telecom providers in the Netherlands: Vodafone / Ziggo, T-Mobile / Tele2 or KPN," de Volkskrant reported, adding that "the AIVD is investigating whether there is a link with espionage by the Chinese government," according to intelligence sources.

Neither AIVD nor the carriers responded to any questions, with AIVD telling the newspaper "we don't say if it's right or if it's wrong. We never respond to questions about possible ongoing investigations because that can make our work more difficult."

A Huawei spokesperson said that "in every country where we do business, we abide by laws and regulations and protect the privacy of our customers. Cybersecurity has always been our top priority. We continue to invest and innovate to keep the door closed for governments or parties who want to use our network for activities that endanger cybersecurity."

Responding to the signing of the executive order in the U.S., Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross had said that this should protect against "foreign adversaries [accessing] the nation's information and communications technology and services supply chain." And so how Washington will have enjoyed the almost immediate follow-up from the Netherlands.

Europe has long been the battleground between Huawei and Washington. The back and forth has been almost a constant since last year when the U.S. turned the heat up on China's telecoms manufacturers in general and Huawei in particular.

A week ago, U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo publicly warned the U.K. government that "insufficient security will impede the United States’ ability to share certain information within trusted networks," adding that "the United States has an obligation to ensure that the places we will operate, the places where American information is, the places where we have our national security risks, that they operate inside trusted networks."

The AIVD has warned in the past about “dependence on the hardware or software of companies from countries running active cyber programs against Dutch interests,” with both China and Russia in mind.

This, though, is not a Netherlands story. It is much wider than that.

The U.S. has been challenged to produce a smoking Huawei gun. The company rode out reports of undisclosed CIA intelligence and the alleged Vodafone backdoor in Italian networking equipment. We are about to find out if they can do the same this time around, or if there will be incontrovertible evidence disclosed for others to see.

Either way, if yesterday's executive order gave the U.K. and the rest of the EU a headache yesterday, this news could make it immeasurably worse.