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To: locogringo who wrote (142922)	7/1/2019 12:34:27 PM
From: Woody_Nickels	1 Recommendation Recommended By Honey_Bee Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 456732

Last week there was an article about Boeing outsourcing Engineering to $9/hr Third World Engineers.

To: locogringo who wrote (142922)	7/2/2019 1:25:25 PM
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Boeing can't stop digging a hole for itself. I'm wondering about their seemingly stupid management decisions! This is a lot more complicated than any of us really know. I did a lot of software work for Boeing in the early-mid 90's for the 777. Software for design, nothing that became part of the plane. Some thoughts. When I was working with Boeing, it was the highest integrity organization of any I have ever worked with. The acquisition of McDonnel Douglas introduced a cancer into the corporate culture. Foreign airplane sales are always political. For the 777, they sub-contracted much of the fuselage fabrication to Japan. In return, JAL placed a big order. Boeing has gotten almost no business in the past from India. If outsourcing something was a cost of business, it may not have been an unreasonable decision. India is not exactly known for its expertise in Carbon fiber fabrication or precision metal working. The best parts of its SW industry are world class. SW was probably the only thing they could consider buying from India. If they had done the development in US, most of the developers would still have been Indians. In my 35 years of SW development, at least 80% of defects which made it to production were flawed specifications, not incorrect implementation. The specifications were certainly written in US. Boeing certainly performed extensive testing before acceptance. If it passed all of the tests, that makes a flawed specification more likely. Boeing is still responsible for the plane and deserves to suffer badly for this, but it is very complicated business decisions and it is far from certain that outsourcing SW to India was a bad one.