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To: Tommaso who wrote (6513)1/21/1998 7:36:00 PM
From: Thomas C. White  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 71178
 
That's Leitmotif you Philistine. Mit a "f", not a "v"!! Leitmotif Leitmotif Leitmotif!! Donnerwetter, penni, where is my trusty cudgel??

It has long been established that the drulmotif, while originally intended by the Great Composer, failed miserably in the initial execution at Bayreuth because of the immense difficulty of knocking out on stage the sort of leather-lunged Heldentenor arias required while effusively salivating at the same time. Not to mention the problem of the rusting of suit of armor costumes, and the danger of slippage and according need for repeated floor mopping during the scene changes, issues that were immediately raised by the horrified stage manager. And while true to Wagner's intent, the great tenor Lauritz Melchior attempted to rescuscitate the drulmotif early in this century, he was insufficiently copious and could no more than send the occasional hawker into the wings even on a good day.

Some of the more demonstrative motifs which remain with us to this day at the discretion of the stage director are the flattusmotif, evincing contempt for the hero's foe (in some productions substituted by the less offensive himbeermotif, himbeer being the German word for "raspberry"); the gaggenmotif, signifying disgust; and the schnorrenmotif, signifying that the hero is sleeping.



To: Tommaso who wrote (6513)1/21/1998 8:33:00 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 71178
 
I am going to go dig out my Iliad right now, I can't wait to read this bit because I seemed to have missed it in prior readings. My appreciation of Wagner will also rise to new hights now that I understand the drulmotiv. Somehow I've never run across a mention of this, but how exciting to discover it here. Makes all the sense in the world now that you explain it. Drool is undeniably sexy.



To: Tommaso who wrote (6513)1/21/1998 9:56:00 PM
From: Rambi  Respond to of 71178
 
While you have done an admirable job covering the amorous and erotic aspects of drool, you neglected one of the most intense and famous droolationships in history, the touching and platonic affair between Pavlov and his dog. Most people mistakenly believe that Pavlov's Dog was salivating at the sound of a bell which he had learned to associate with a piece of meat in Pavlov's hand. Wrong! Those of us learned in the field of droolology know the true story, which is that the dog (whom Pavlov affectionately called Trixie in private) adored Pavlov and was responding conditionally to the sight of his Ivan's beloved hand, not the piece of steak tartare-which actually Trixie found quite disgusting, preferring her meat charbroiled with a warm, pink center. However, Victorian sensibilities being what they were, Pavlov's publisher felt that the close friendship between the two might be misinterpreted and the research tainted by scandal (Pavlov was married and Trixie involved in a long-term and torrid relationship with the mastiff next door). Thus he revamped the report, substituting the tartare as the stimulus, and gaining a PG rating from the Russian Board of Censorship.
I'm sure your omission was inadvertent and hope that my little causerie doesn't offend.