Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (131511)	8/4/2019 2:34:14 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 361566

Well, the three wise men KNEW he'd need an American birth to be president in the distant future! Except, because his mother was an American citizen, he didn't. But, they made sure he had on, just in case! It doesn't have to make sense, because it's a right wingnut fable!

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (131511)	8/4/2019 2:46:15 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361566

>> "Will Rat ever change a winger's mind?" One thing influences me. Facts. If you start using them and refuting the false, you'll change my mind if I'm misinformed. You seem to be enamored with verbiage regardless of status of truth or fiction.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (131511)	8/4/2019 5:54:03 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361566

Ask your friends what he thinks are the chances of somebody posting a fake birth announcement in the newspaper. It isn't just his friends. I-node at least used to make a spirited defense of that part of birtherism. IIRC, it involved his very pregnant mother traveling to Kenya at a time when very pregnant women weren't allowed to travel very far and getting to Kenya was not very easy even for people who weren't pregnant. And her parents, Being well-versed in the relevant law and realizing that Barack would one day be a presidential candidate, managed to get a faked birth announcement planted in a couple of newspapers at the time.... Occam's Razor is not something i-node is familiar with.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (131511)	8/4/2019 9:42:26 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361566

>> Ask your friends what he thinks are the chances of somebody posting a fake birth announcement in the newspaper. The chances at that time were pretty high in Hawaii. Being born in the United States was a coveted name tag. Being listed in the birth announcements was a matter of getting a clerk at the hospital to report the birth. That's it. A sawbuck would have done it. Moreover, there were numbering issues with the birth certificates that suggest someone might have tinkered with the process. Normally, they were serially numbered, but there were others born before him whose certificates were numbed subsequently to his. Of course, the entire point of serially numbered documents is to establish an ordering of events. Not saying it proves anything, but it is part of the hospital story and along with the the fact that people could slip someone a few bucks to make their son "American born", it isn't crazy. Crazier shit happens. ALL THE TIME. These things, along with the lie, should have been properly investigated by media people and were not. I think it highly likely Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims and that he only lied on his bio to make himself attractive as a speaker. But make no mistake, it WAS a lie. That is the only assertion I've made in this connection.