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To: HairBall who wrote (22042)8/6/2019 11:13:11 AM
From: Don Green  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 33421
 
LG

I don't even like Trump, but no one else (and I mean no one) has ever tried to fix the mess our country is in. And, he is taking shots from his own party and never ending shots from the Demorats and Fake News Media.


Well said, I agree 100 percent in fact if he had just shut up at many of his public speeches and stop tweeting he would be easily elected.

I always wonder what a gathering of ex-presidents sitting in a room would be saying about how Trump has run his presidency.

a.k.a. "I wish I had the gonads to do some of the things Trump has done"
I think many of them envy him for his brash and boldness.

Of course many hate him for many other things.

Trump just doesn't understand, most of what he says should be said behind closed doors like all of those presidents before him did.







To: HairBall who wrote (22042)8/6/2019 2:11:51 PM
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O/T LG, with regards to the other thread you suggested, I did mention that I don't do silos. I believe many of the contemporary issues in our society stem from people retreating into interacting only with those who agree with their own personal bias. Echo chambers, no matter what form they take, are not a healthy way to bring people together, IMO.

In order to have true, constructive discourse, I believe we must have respectful exchanges that empathize with the others we are having a dialogue with. We've lost that in the new age of impersonal social media.

Escalation leads to escalation. De-escalation leads to de-escalation.

While this may be difficult and many times impractical, it is the hard things that often times yield the greatest results.

As for crimes committed by administrations, I can't recall one in my lifetime that didn't commit them. Maybe that's part of the lure of the office.

When papers are declassified, we often find interesting things. For example, it was recently revealed that there is written proof that Nixon violated the Logan Act and deliberately sabotaged the 1968 Paris Peace Talks during the election campaign. Kissinger, at the time in the Johnson administration, leaked to the Nixon campaign that the North and South Vietnamese were going to settle for peace, and Nixon stopped it.

1-million more Vietnamese and 20,000 US serviceman died as a result of delaying the peace that was to be made in 1968.
Kissinger is still alive.