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To: Paul Senior who wrote (62432)9/5/2019 8:35:43 AM
From: Graham Osborn  Respond to of 78670
 
CNC is really a stroll down memory lane. This company was a beautiful organic growth story - you could call them the GEICO of low-income health plans - up until about 2015. Since then as you say their growth has been driven more by acquisitions and accompanying leverage. Certainly I think they deserve a much lower multiple now than they did 5 years ago. The debt could be a problem - even the interest coverage ratios are getting a bit narrower than I'd like. I guess it's the usual Cinderella story.

Unrelated: Seems like Mike Burry is suddenly in the news a lot more after 10 years in the wilderness. This yesterday on Yahoo Finance:
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To: Paul Senior who wrote (62432)9/5/2019 8:55:09 AM
From: Graham Osborn  Respond to of 78670
 
Speaking of memory lane:

Re: ELAMF

A fellow microcapper brought this to my attention recently. Looks like it currently sells for 3-5X the earnings of the candy subsidiary if you believe the numbers. Anyway, the name sounded familiar so I went back searching for it. Turns out this was a stock you, Mike, and others were discussing all the way back in 1998:

Subject 16175

The company has had an interesting history since then. But the company was selling for <1X earnings less than a year ago. Once of the bigger misses of my short career.

I don't own this by the way. Might in the future but only just learned of it.