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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (136302)9/22/2019 11:21:57 AM
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There is a far better way to show what a fool that guy is, and it kind of pisses me off that climate scientists don't use this simple calculation:

mass of a column of atmosphere (Kg/cm2) = 14.7lb/sq2 = 6.67 /(2.54 x 2.54) = 1.03kg/cm2

CO2 concentration = 407ppm => CO2 mass/cm2 = 1.03Kg x 407/1e6 = 0.42gm/cm2

Now even ElStupido Conservative should know how to build a plastic greenhouse, with say 6 mil poly (0.15mm). Typical plastics have a density of about 1gm/cm2, so the effect of the CO2 mass in the column is about the equivalent of 0.42cm thick plastic which would be about 28X the 6mil poly.

So the delta from preindustrial is about (407 - 280)/407 x 28 = 8.7. So In simple terms we have added about 9 layers of 6 mil poly wrapping the entire earth. I think that is a good way to explain to a fool how it works.

Alternately, its about 14.5ppm per 6mil layer, and at 2ppm/year every 7 years we wrap the earth in another 6 mil layer.

Of course its not that simple because of the details of the existing optical properties of the atmosphere as well as the optical properties of CO2 vs plastics, etc not to mention that ElStupido Conservative would confuse himself with conduction and convection in his greenhouse, etc. But I've long thought that at least a fraction of the ilLetteratie might have a lightbulb go off in their dense noggins if they translated those ppm's which they think so inconsequential into equivalent plastic thickness and then asked themselves if that might indeed make a good greenhouse.