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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1171324)10/15/2019 2:53:39 PM
From: sylvester80  Respond to of 1575230
 
OOPS! Trump Just Created a Moral and Strategic Disaster
As desperate Kurds ally with Assad in Syria, the specter of the Islamic State threatens again, and American power dims.
By The Editorial Board
Oct. 14, 2019
nytimes.com

CreditIllustration by Nicholas Konrad; photograph by Doug Mills/The New York Times

The roughly 1,000 American troops stationed in Syria find themselves in an impossible situation, by order of their commander in chief. They are now caught between the Syrian forces of President Bashar al-Assad, an unrepentant war criminal who has used poison gas against his own people, and the Turkish military — a NATO ally — which has already rained down artillery shells near positions held by American soldiers.

When Donald Trump won the presidency on a promise to end “endless wars,” it was always unspoken that doing so would mean to some extent abandoning allies, like the Kurdish forces that helped devastate the Islamic State, or the Afghan government in Kabul. But surely putting America first never meant leaving American soldiers behind. The Times reported Monday that removing the American troops from Syria may require an airlift, a move that may also be needed to relocate the estimated 50 American tactical nuclear weapons housed at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey.

Dozens of civilians and combatants were killed in fighting, according to the BBC, when Turkey struck south into Kurdish-held areas of Syria over the weekend, an operation that was greenlit by the White House. Islamic State fighters and their family members, who had been held in a detention camp by Kurdish forces, have scattered to the winds, The Times reports. The Kurds, under fire from Turkish forces, quickly allied with the Syrian government, which sent its own Russian-backed army north.

One thousand decisions led the United States to find itself refereeing the border between Syria and Turkey, but only one decision — made abruptly just over a week ago by President Trump after a phone call with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey — led to the chaos and bloodletting that has gushed across the region in the past few days.

That decision may have been made in the service of a coherent grander strategy, but there is little evidence of it. Mr. Trump allowed the invasion and then threatened to destroy the Turkish economy if it went too far, without specifying how far that might be. He doubled tariffs on imported Turkish steel on Monday as the Treasury Department and Capitol Hill discussed options for an economic counterpunch to the invasion Mr. Trump only just approved. Adding to the confusion of the situation, Vice President Mike Pence late Monday said Mr. Trump had asked the Turkish government for a cessation of hostilities.

The threat to destroy the Turkish economy was made, as is Mr. Trump’s wont, in a tweet that was such a departure from historical presidential pronouncements that it is worth quoting: “As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!).”

No wise person would take such headlong action in one of the planet’s most volatile and contested regions. As for limits, it is unclear what those are.

On the ground, Syrian Arab forces allied with the Turkish military executed at least two Kurdish prisoners on Saturday, filmed the killings and blasted the images across social media. Defense Secretary Mark Esper admitted in an interview Sunday that “we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.” Two United States officials told The Times that the precipitous withdrawal of American forces forced them to leave behind five dozen “high value” Islamic State prisoners. The situation is sure to get worse, especially for the estimated two million civilians living in northern Syria.

“They trusted us, and we broke that trust,” an Army officer who has worked alongside the Kurds in northern Syria told The Times. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”

The decision makes as little sense strategically as it does morally. American allies from Berlin to Riyadh are alarmed. “Anyone who wants to assist Syria in protecting the Kurds is good with me, whether it is Russia, China, or Napoleon Bonaparte,” Mr. Trump wrote almost flippantly on Twitter on Monday. Yet at the same time that Mr. Trump has signaled that the Middle East should be someone else’s problem and has talked about bringing the troops home, he recently ordered another 3,000 to Saudi Arabia to deter Iran — which, like Russia and the Syrian government, has now only been emboldened by his flight from Syria.

History is littered with instances of one-time allies abandoned by Washington to their fate — the Bay of Pigs invasion; the fall of South Vietnam; numerous internal uprisings, like Hungary in 1956, that were fanned by the United States only to be smothered when aid, implicit or explicit, was withheld. The United States has abandoned the Kurds — a stateless people who live in parts of Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Armenia and Iran — on numerous occasions in just the past half century. The most infamous of these betrayals came when Saddam Hussein attacked them with poison gas in 1988, and the Reagan administration protected the Iraqi government from congressional sanctions.

Yet the decision by the Trump administration to quit Syria stands apart because the status quo was entirely sustainable. American forces were not taking high numbers of casualties. The region under control of the Kurds was largely quiet. Islamic State fighters were penned up. There wasn’t major international pressure for the United States to withdraw. If the Trump administration had wanted to acquiesce to Mr. Erdogan’s pleadings to let Turkey take stronger actions in service of its own national security, it could surely have managed such steps in a far more measured and coordinated manner.

Several Republicans, including Senator Lindsey Graham and Representative Liz Cheney, expressed outrage at the overnight betrayal of the Kurds. (Ms. Cheney went so far as to suggest that the Turkish military launched its invasion because Mr. Trump is weakened by an impeachment inquiry over his wielding of presidential power.) But they have only their party to blame for resisting any effort to hold the president accountable for his erratic navigation of American foreign policy or to temper policy decisions that have landed migrant children in cages at home and left longstanding alliances in tatters overseas.

If Mr. Trump hoped to improve relations with Turkey ( where two Trump towers license his name, by the way) then he got that wrong, too. Anyone who could think half a step ahead would realize that any such warming would surely be chilled by the inevitable economic sanctions. In the wake of the invasion, the European Union opted to limit arms sales to Turkey, while sanctions under consideration on Capitol Hill could shut off flows of weapons, spare parts and ammunition from the United States.

At the moment, America’s priority must be to protect its soldiers in the field and secure its nuclear weapons. Turkey must understand that NATO will not come to its aid if its adventurism in Syria spins out of control and that the international community will reject any effort to dilute the Kurdish population by moving in other ethnic groups.

A few days ago there were valid options to answer the question of what the United States could do in response to the invasion. Harsh sanctions and other actions might have compelled Turkey to pull back, allowing for American troops to restore the status quo. Now the only alternative to Turkish control of the north is Mr. Assad’s control of the north. America’s alliance with Kurdish forces is probably dead, and it’s hard to see what role the United States can play in Syria or in the fight against the Islamic State. They say if you break it, you own it. But maybe all the United States has done is break it.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1171324)10/15/2019 3:02:17 PM
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One can be wrong while being a good guy, and one can be right while being a bad guy. Here's a guy who was right about a lot of things, and whose record as President Baddest was just broken by Trump. You might think of him as a Republican socialist hawk.

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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1171324)10/15/2019 3:17:36 PM
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That's like adding the adjective "democratic" in front of the word "socialist."

It doesn't change a thing....

Until you use its synonym - NAZI.




To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1171324)10/15/2019 4:54:31 PM
From: sylvester80  Respond to of 1575230
 
OOPS! Trump’s impeachment barricade crumbles; Key witnesses are ignoring Trump and delivering bombshell testimony in Democrats’ Ukraine investigation.
Former White House adviser Fiona Hill leaves Capitol Hill Monday after giving closed-door testimony to a panel of impeachment investigators. | Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP Photo
By KYLE CHENEY and ANDREW DESIDERIO
10/15/2019 11:36 AM EDT
Updated: 10/15/2019 03:41 PM EDT
politico.com
Donald Trump's impeachment blockade has collapsed.

The president's former top Russia adviser, Fiona Hill — the first White House official to cooperate in Democrats' investigation of the Ukraine scandal — has detailed for lawmakers a trail of alleged corruption that extends from Kiev to the West Wing. In dramatic testimony on Monday, she roped in some of Trump's top advisers as witnesses to the unfolding controversy.

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And on Tuesday, a senior State Department official, George Kent, appeared on Capitol Hill to testify about his knowledge of the episode despite an attempt by Trump administration lawyers to block him, according to a source working on the impeachment inquiry. The House Intelligence Committee issued a subpoena for his testimony Tuesday morning, and Kent, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, complied.

It's the latest evidence that the White House’s stonewalling against congressional requests for documents and testimony is crumbling — and Democrats are feeling a new sense of momentum.

“Thank you to patriots like @realDonaldTrump appointee Fiona Hill who chose to ignore the obstruction from Trump and gave testimony to Congress today,” said Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.). “The truth will keep coming out. And Trump cannot stop it.”

In closed-door testimony described by a source in the room, Hill said she raised concerns with White House officials over the shadow diplomacy efforts of Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who mounted a months-long campaign to discredit Joe Biden on unfounded charges.

Hill said she shared her concerns with then-national security adviser John Bolton, who encouraged her to report her concerns about Giuliani's efforts to a National Security Council lawyer. She told House impeachment investigators that she met with the lawyer, John Eisenberg, twice. Hill also connected Giuliani's efforts to Trump's acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, and said Bolton characterized their efforts on Ukraine as a “drug deal.”

According to a source in the room Monday, Hill said Bolton compared Giuliani to “a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up.”

And the flood of damaging information isn’t subsiding.

As lawmakers return to Capitol Hill on Tuesday, a growing number of witnesses this week are set to describe their own role in the controversy, even as the White House has vowed not to engage with House Democrats’ “illegitimate” impeachment effort. The Democratic Caucus is set to meet Tuesday night after a two-week recess to discuss the impeachment inquiry.

On Wednesday, Michael McKinley, who abruptly resigned last week as a top aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, intends to testify before lawmakers.

On Thursday, lawmakers are expected to hear from Gordon Sondland, the EU ambassador whose text messages revealed by lawmakers indicated he was aware of efforts to pressure Ukrainian officials to investigate Biden. Sondland is reportedly ready to deflect any blame onto Trump about whether there was any quid pro quo involving military aid to Ukraine or a meeting between Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart in Washington.

Congressional investigators on Friday will hear from Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper, who oversees Russia- and Ukraine-related matters at the Pentagon.

Despite the series of breakthroughs, Democrats will still face resistance from the White House to some of their high-level requests.

When asked whether Trump's budget office planned to comply with a Tuesday subpoena deadline for documents, a senior administration official would not comment, instead pointing to a White House letter last week that deemed the House impeachment probe “unconstitutional.”

But Hill’s account underscores how the president’s once-impenetrable barrier to meaningful testimony in Democrats’ impeachment inquiry has been blown apart.

“The walls are closing in. The details we are learning about the shadow foreign policy operation Trump has been running to benefit himself personally are stunning,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.). “Why have a democracy, if we allow this to happen without consequence?”

Though Hill's testimony was the most damning to date, she wasn't the first to put a crack in Trump's wall.

Earlier this month, former Ambassador Kurt Volker provided text messages between himself and other diplomats in which they described concerns that Trump was using a potential White House visit for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, and possibly even military aid, as a cudgel to force the besieged country to probe Biden. Volker testified for nine hours to lawmakers and aides behind closed doors. Trump has forcefully denied that any sort of “quid pro quo” occurred.

Last Friday, Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, testified about her abrupt removal by Trump, which came amid a smear campaign by Trump's allies that accused her of disloyalty. Yovanovitch's ouster in May infuriated senior State Department officials, and she testified that the ability of bad actors to engineer her removal could be exploited by foreign adversaries.

Kent served under Yovanovitch in Ukraine for three years. A former State Department official said Kent is “able to peel back layers of the onion that many people can’t,” and he is likely to speak out against Yovanovitch’s ouster.

Meanwhile, Giuliani, who is facing a mounting set of legal woes, parted ways with his attorney Jon Sale on Tuesday after Sale sent a letter to the three key investigative committees stating that Giuliani would not comply with a congressional subpoena seeking documents. Sale wrote that the subpoena was “overbroad” and “unduly burdensome.”

“Jon has done what I retained him for,” Giuliani told POLITICO.

Vice President Mike Pence is also due to turn over documents by Tuesday, but he has yet to be subpoenaed.

House Republicans have said little about the substance of Hill's testimony but have complained vehemently about Democrats’ decision to hold witness interviews behind closed doors. They say a matter as weighty as the potential impeachment of a president should be conducted publicly.

Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff has countered this complaint, arguing that the secrecy surrounding the initial interviews is meant to prevent witnesses from aligning their statements.

Caitlin Emma, Darren Samuelsohn and Nahal Toosi contributed to this report.