To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1172691 ) 10/20/2019 8:07:18 PM From: maceng2 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571690 Thanks. I watched that video before ... it's very good. One has to understand though, having to look at Miami though the the glass bottomed boat from 100 feet above is neither here not there. We might not like the idea... it's whether it going to happen or not is the important bit. So we might not like the idea of Miami being under 100 feet of water, that is the politics of the situation, while if it happens that is the science, and a very separate thing. Likewise calving glaciers is awfully dramatic, while watching snow landing on a glacier is a bit boring especially if the visibility is in a white out mode. Where I live, (and I still not have got either the head nor the tail of it yet), the sea has retreated by miles and what was sea floor now very flat agriculture land. The "islands" shown on ancient maps are isolated hills in the land mass. Several old castles and towns have "sea gates" that are now above sea level. I thought it was post glacial rebound from the last Ice Age, but seemingly we are sinking here and it's only the north of England and Scotland that is rising. Oh well. Fact is where I sit right now was under water in just the recent the middle ages. Where Julius Caesar and the rest of his Roman pals landed is miles inland from where I am right now. One has to realize some cycles and trends are very slow and long, and cyclic. That graph you have there is very good, but do realize the Suns activity is (i.e. "could be") a leading indicator and it has now gone down. It is not sure fire evidence that the "The Suns activity has NO effect on global temperature increases". imho that would be a rash conclusion to rush to. Quite the opposite may well be the case... and as time goes on.... that red line takes a sharp turn downwards as a lagging indicator from the blue line. This was originally a Roman fort on an Island. William the Conqueror used it as a HQ during his invasion (1066) , and the view is near the "sea gate" of the castle. The sea is now at least half a mile away now and lower.