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To: SirWalterRalegh who wrote (151465)10/30/2019 11:11:14 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219525
 
Re <<I will never "no">>

... clear.

Am asking some meat people by e-mail as well. Want to speculate on BYND, and am biased towards short for now, but lacking a crucial piece of information ... need to do taste test to know the animal better. Not going to taste test tomorrow because am at end of fasting tomorrow pre dinner and am not going to be discriminating enough

I am meat-biased



greenqueen.com.hk

The 6 Best Places To Eat A Beyond Meat Burger in Hong Kong #PlantForward

Last updated Apr 29, 2019
Last year, when social enterprise Green Monday first introduced Hong Kong to Beyond Burger by Beyond Meat – the vegan patty that looks, cooks, and tastes like meat without sacrificing on taste or juicy satisfaction – the 852 welcomed the plant-based product with open arms. Revolutionizing the future of protein, we saw many carnivores, omnivores, and herbivores express their bewilderment and delight at how uncanny the Beyond Burger tasted like the conventional patty we were used to. As demand grows, the big players in the city’s F&B industry are rising up to the occasion. From fast-casual classic to extraordinary gourmet perfection, here are the six best Beyond Burgers you can find in Hong Kong.



Green Common Beyond Burger – VeganGreen Common was the original spot of the official Beyond Burger launch in Hong Kong so it makes perfect sense that Green Common knows how to make a great one. Their upgraded classic, Beyond Burger Plus (HKD108), comes with vegan cheese from Daiya, generous heap of ripe avocado, and thick cut of tomato all on a vegan bun, are all the markings of what a burger should be.

For a list of Green Common locations, click here



The Butchers Club Beyond Burger – VeganBring da ruckus on the outstanding partnership between Butchers Club and Beyond Meat! The beloved burger chain launched a plant-based version of a customer favorite: the Beyond Wu Tang-Style (HKD120). A Korean-inspired creation featuring vegan kimchi, a Beyond Burger patty fried in spicy Sriracha, with sweet potato tempura, Daiya vegan cheese, JUST vegan mayo, all on a vegan bun, this behemoth burger is sure to satisfy one and all.

Multiple locations across Hong Kong island, Kowloon and Southern District. Full list here



Confusion Plant Based Kitchen Beyond Burger -VeganNewly opened Confusion Plant Based Kitchen does a mean Beyond Meat Burger (HKD145). Topped with homemade fermented sauerkraut, smoked paprika ketchup, vegan cheddar cheese from Daiya sandwiched between vegan handcrafted rye sourdough bun from local Latvian bakers, Mayse Artisan Bakery, the burger is ferociously delicious thanks to the crunchy sourness of the sauerkraut.

G/F, 103 Jervois Street, Sheung Wan; +852 2563 3699



Hemingway’s DB Beyond Burger – VeganNo reputable gastropub would be missing a burger on its menu and Discovery Bay’s favorite vegan joint, Hemingway’s, is no exception. Serving up a no-frills burger with crisp lettuce, hearty tomatoes, and homemade vegan sauce that’s anything but basic, go for the whole entrée or share the mini sliders plate with friends.

Shop G09, Block A, 92 & 96 Discovery Bay Road, Discovery Bay Plaza, Lantau Island, info@hemingways.hk



Porterhouse Beyond BurgerSleek and seductive up Lan Kwai Fong’s California Tower, Porterhousebrings their sexy vegetarian interpretation by way of their “Beyond” Vegan Burger (HKD 168) by smoking a Beyond Meat patty and filling it with dairy-free cheese, avocado and lettuce all on a soft brioche bun.

7/F, 30 – 36 D’Aguilar Street, California Tower, Central, info@porterhousebylaris.com.hk



The Ritz-Carlton Hong Kong Beyond Burger – VeganThe first (and tallest) Ritz-Carlton to debut the Beyond Burger from its luxury hotel chain, executive chef Peter Find fuses gastronomy and sustainability above Hong Kong’s famed Victoria Harbor. Boasting an array of toppings such as housemade fermented kimchi, beetroot hummus and fresh avocado puree, the hotel marries the culinary excellence of a five-star kitchen to Beyond’s new breed of plant burger patties.

1 Austin Road West, International Commerce Centre, +852 2263 2263

The Beyond Burger is also available at the following Hong Kong dining establishments:Ruby Tuesday Hong Kong (Various) Delifrance Hong Kong (Various)Plaza Premium First (Hong Kong International Airport)The Foreign Correspondents’ Club (FCC) (Central)

BLT Burger (Harbour City)

Inn Side Out (Causeway Bay)

Royal Dining (Wan Chai)

Le Meridien (Cyberport)

City Garden Hotel (North Point)

Grand Hyatt Hong Kong (Wan Chai)

All Regal hotels (Various)

Images courtesy of Green Common (lead), The Butchers Club, Green Queen, Hemingway’s DB, and Porterhouse..





To: SirWalterRalegh who wrote (151465)11/23/2020 4:56:53 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 219525
 
Re <<I will never "no">>

in response to Message 32394519

... <<I know what Chinese mock goose, duck, chicken etc taste like, all made out of tofu, and is okay if one wants a tofu burger, but not exactly a beef substitute unless one is a monk.>>

and having soon taste-tested a BYND burger and determined that it is not worthy Message 32402166



Now we wait for the market to express opinion

I am guessing initial success as curiosity leads folks to try, but once and never again

beyond-meat-s-fake-pork-faces-competition-from-tofu-in-china

Beyond Meat Faces an Ancient Rival in China -- Tofu

The original plant-based protein has been a central feature of mainland cuisine since the first millennium. Why would tastes change now?

David Fickling
22 November 2020, 08:00 GMT+8



I mean, who knows what's inside, really.

Photographer: Paul Yeung/Bloomberg

You wouldn’t try to sell coal to Newcastle. So how would you rate your chances of peddling meat substitutes to the country that invented tofu?

Beyond Meat Inc., the U.S. maker of plant-based burgers and sausages, on Wednesday announced a new productdesigned to crack China, the world’s biggest meat market: imitation ground pork.

It’s not hard to see why this was a necessary step. For decades, China has consumed about half the world’s pork. Even in the wake of an epidemic of African swine fever, which caused the domestic herd to shrink by nearly a third, pig meat still accounted for about two-thirds of China’s livestock consumption in 2019. (In a good year, it’s more like three-quarters.)

We'll Meat Again
China's per-capita meat consumption has already caught up with Japan

Source: U.S. Department of Agriculture, World Bank, Bloomberg Opinion calculations

Note: No data available for Argentina and India pork consumption. Data is for carcass weight (beef, pork) and ready-to-cook weight (poultry).

That makes a pork substitute absolutely necessary for the factories Beyond Meat plans to open near Shanghai. Despite decades of relatively rapid growth in China, the company's core imitated product, beef, isn’t consumed at anything like the rates in other countries — particularly relative to the one-time ranching cultures of the Americas.

If Beyond Meat wants to get in on vegetarianism among China’s affluent classes, it needs a product to match the market. Hong Kong’s OmniFoods is already widely distributing a ground pork substitute in the city, and mainland player Whole Perfect Food sells vegan bacon. Startups Zhenmeat and Starfield Food Science & Technology, meanwhile, have sought funding to develop their own meat-substitute products.

The real problem is not those young rivals, though, but a much older challenger. Tofu and its soy-based relatives have been a central feature of Chinese cuisine since the first millennium. In the Suiyuan Shidan, an 18th-century cookbook, there are as many recipes for tofu skin-based imitation poultry as there are for beef, which at the time was an exotic food grouped alongside curiosities like palm civet and water deer.

Bean There, Done ThatIn Shanghai, consumption of soy-based foods already accounts for about a fifth of people's diets

Source: Zheng et al, "The Shanghai Women's Health Study: Rationale, Study Design, and Baseline Characteristics", American Journal of Epidemiology, Volume 162, Issue 11, 1 December 2005, Pages 1123–1131; Shu et al, "Cohort Profile: The Shanghai Men’s Health Study", International Journal of Epidemiology, Volume 44, Issue 3, June 2015, Pages 810–818

That hasn’t changed all that much, even today. Studies of around 136,000 Shanghainese men and women in the late 1990s and early 2000s found that soy-based foods comprised about 20% of their diet, roughly twice as large a share as meat products.

You might have expected that mix to change dramatically as China has grown more affluent over the past few decades, but shifts have been surprisingly modest. While poultry and beef consumption increased at a rapid clip in the early 2000s, that pace has slowed over the past decade. The 75 million tons of meat that China consumed in 2017 before swine fever took hold was just slightly less than the 76 million tons eaten five years earlier.

Problems in the food chain can cause more dramatic declines. The 10.4 million metric-ton decline in pork consumption in 2018 amid the African swine fever epidemic was sizeable, but scarcely the only such event in recent Chinese history. In 2011, when a government crackdown on the food additive clenbuterol led to one of the country’s perennial food safety scandals, pork consumption fell by 7.3 million tons. Similar dips occurred after a 2005 streptococcus outbreak.

Where's the Beef?
China's per-capita consumption of meat hasn't increased significantly since the mid-2000s

Source: U.S. Department of Agriculture, World Bank, Bloomberg Opinion calculations

The slowing growth rate of carnivory suggests that, as we’ve argued in the past, the country’s hunger for meat may be nearly sated. Chinese people already consume beef, for instance, in similar quantities to people in Taiwan, Singapore, and Japan. It’s far from certain that appetites will converge on the higher levels seen in some western countries as incomes rise.

China’s official dietary guidelines to halve meat consumption and a more recent campaign against food waste are further signs that the challenges of feeding 1.4 billion people are starting to butt up against hard limits. That’s especially the case at a time when the government is growing more worried about its import dependence on foreign powers.

The selling proposition for meat substitutes in countries like the U.S., Australia, Canada and New Zealand is relatively straightforward. Beef consumption has already been in decline for decades, driven initially by health concerns and the sheer volumes that locals traditionally ate. Many of those who become vegetarians or vegans still have fond memories of the meaty flavors they grew up with. Selling a realistic plant-based alternative is just a way to take advantage of a trend that’s already well underway.

In China, it’s more complicated. The country has about 50 million vegetarians, according to official newswire Xinhua, but meat consumption has risen so fast since the 1980s that fewer will have the atavistic hankering for animal products suffered by their peers elsewhere. On top of that, there’s a rich domestic vegetarian tradition to draw on that’s more affordable than the current wave of imitation muscle. Plant-based pork may yet find a place in China — but this country started moving beyond meat hundreds of years ago.

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

To contact the author of this story:
David Fickling at dfickling@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Rachel Rosenthal at rrosenthal21@bloomberg.net

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