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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Katelew who wrote (142809)	11/7/2019 8:13:32 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 356062

>>Twitter banning political ads is formal. Universities banning conservative speakers is formal.<< You don't see any difference in these two bans? One is wrong, the other is fine.

To: Katelew who wrote (142809)	11/7/2019 9:10:07 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356062

Washington Post Fires Back At Trump’s ‘Repugnant’ Attacks On Its Reporters Talking Points Memoby Cristina Cabrera The Washington Post defended its reporters on Thursday after President Donald Trump bashed them over the paper’s new report about him and Attorney General Bill Barr. “The Post fully stands behind its story and its reporters, who are among the finest journalists anywhere,” Marty Baron, the Post’s executive editor, said in a statement. “The president continues to make false accusations against news organizations and individual journalists.” “Despite his repugnant attempt to intimidate and harass The Post and its staff, we will continue to do the work that democracy demands of a free and independent press,” he continued. Baron issued the statement an hour after Trump attacked Post reporters Matt Zapotosky, Josh Dawsey and Carol Leonnig, whom the President called “lowlife reporters.” Trump had flown into a rage after they reported that he had asked Barr to hold a press conference declaring that he had not broken any laws when he asked the Ukrainian president to investigate 2020 rival Joe Biden and right-wing conspiracy about a DNC server. The President responded to the report on Thursday morning with a series of furious tweets claiming that the “degenerate Washington Post” had “MADE UP” the story. “The Amazon Washington Post and three lowlife reporters, Matt Zapotosky, Josh Dawsey, and Carol Leonnig, wrote another Fake News story, without any sources (pure fiction), about Bill Barr & myself,” he ranted. “We both deny this story, which they knew before they wrote it. A garbage newspaper!”

To: Katelew who wrote (142809)	11/8/2019 8:34:48 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356062

Twitter banning political ads is formal. Universities banning conservative speakers is formal. Perhaps my word choice was not the best. In some Western countries hate speech is illegal. That's what I meant. Political correctness, whatever its faults, is still informal. Twitter is a private company. It makes its own rules. Likewise private universities. The whole notion of rights is about the role of the government and what limitations it puts on you and on others wrt you. It's not about what latitude your fellows give you. I have not paid much attention to what is going on in universities in this regard. I find it detestable and choose not to watch. I am unaware of any university with a blanket banning of speakers just for being conservative. That's not the same thing as banning individuals that might trigger snowflakes or a riot. If you have examples of the former, please share. How can you associate yourself with a political party and a media that foment this type of behavior? I do not associate myself with any political party. Perhaps you missed my post just yesterday stressing that point. I have to hold my nose whenever I voted for either a D or R for president. And have even chosen neither. As for fomenting, the extremes of the Republican Party have long been taking outrageous positions. The Democratic Party is now catching up. We have to be careful when we judge a party's rank and file by those standards. For the D's right now, you know full well that the energy is at the edges and that might well do them in this upcoming election. Most Democrats aren't socialists. Just as most Republicans aren't white nationalists. It's both wrong and inapt to judge only the other party by its extremes.