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To: russet who wrote (20060)	11/8/2019 6:40:04 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 37302

Well cannot spend a lot of time here... cold November has yard cleanups and other off peak jobs in panic mode :) Trees caught off guard.. Probably 35% -45% of the leaves still tree bound.. :)) NASA seems to think there is some warming... climate.nasa.gov Not significant I'd say... and I think folks are looking at this in too binary a way... The House is on Fire !! .. Ice Age coming !!! It is all IMO a lot more complex than that... That's what my garden biz and crops are telling me at any rate.. Plus my fav close by ski hill near our Laurentian chalet sent me an email this morning.. We are open today !!!! Season has started !! Only 45 min from my mom's (north of) house on the Montréal West Island :))

To: russet who wrote (20060)	11/10/2019 12:26:21 AM
From: Sun Tzu	1 Recommendation Recommended By johnlw Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 37302

I am going to digress a bit, but bear with me. I don't know if you are familiar with String Theory. It is a branch of physics that arose out of the hypothesis that time is 2 dimensional. Now it carries with it a lot of beautiful math and elegant symmetry and to it proponents is explains a lot and has a ton of potential. But to me, as an engineer and as someone who still keeps up with the math and the science, it has always been problematic because you can't prove it one way or another. There is always some additional dimension that can describe away any criticism. This makes it more like a cult than science. Several years after I said this at my university, this book was published: Not Even Wrong. As the name implies, in science, not being provable is even worse than being wrong. Which brings us to the sunspot theory of global warming/cooling. A theory should either make verifiable predictions, or it has not place in science and belongs to a cult. When I posted here, my question was simple, at which point in time is the cooling supposed to begin. You make your predictions and live by it. It either happens, in which case I will happily convert that camp. Or it doesn't which means its proponent should give it up. As I recall from past discussions, the cooling was supposed to have begun already. But I am willing to be patient a bit. The farthest prediction was for the cycle to start in February 2020. Which means that the average global temperatures from 2020 - 2023 should be lower than those of 2017-2019. Do we have an agreement? Or is this going to be another "scientific" theory that can never be refuted?