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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (143291)11/10/2019 6:33:30 PM
From: Lane31 Recommendation

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CentralParkRanger

  Respond to of 361931
 
Suspects don't usually "bring" witnesses, but they will often have them identify people who can verify a story or recount events.

And I already made that point. At the top of the discussion.

A subject of an investigation cannon [sic] call witnesses although he can suggest them to the investigators or suggest to them that they make public statements.
Trump could suggest witnesses like Pompeo and Mulvaney and Bolton. They have first hand knowledge. Oh, wait.


Why would Schiff conduct an investigation and release only opinions (not facts) and never those who supported Trump? At some point you have recognize the unfairness of these investigations.


I don't see how I can make this much clearer. If there are witnesses who can inform the investigation in ways that might support Trump, he should encourage them to testify. The three guys named above would be a good start. It is not Schifff's fault that they are not testifying.

As for facts, I saw plenty of facts in what I have read of what has been released. People reported what they knew just like in a court of law. I really don't know what you're talking about.

The only think unfair I'm seeing at the moment is you complaining that Schiff is not interviewing witnesses that Trump is keeping them from testifying.

Pat Cipollone correctly pointed out that Congress has never attempted to conduct an impeachment inquiry against a sitting president "without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision" by passing a resolution by vote of the House.

You are not taking account of the difference in this impeachment investigation. If there's a special prosecutor or the regular DOJ conducting the investigation that it passes along to the house, then the next step would be a vote in the House to go forward with the results. When there isn't one, however, and the House has to do its own investigation, the House must first fill that gap and emulate a DOJ investigation, which is not public. Then it can take a vote in the House. You're comparing apples and oranges.



To: i-node who wrote (143291)11/10/2019 7:09:23 PM
From: Wharf Rat1 Recommendation

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bentway

  Respond to of 361931
 
Pat Cipollone correctly pointed out that Congress has never attempted to conduct an impeachment inquiry against a sitting president "without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision" by passing a resolution by vote of the House.

House votes to formalize impeachment inquiry, setting stage ...
washingtonpost.com

Oct 31, 2019 - What to watch for as the Trump impeachment inquiry enters a new phase ... A divided House passed a resolution to formally proceed with its



To: i-node who wrote (143291)11/10/2019 7:11:02 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361931
 
but it is pretty hard to argue that an impeachment investigation should be conducted other than in the plain view of the people.

Why?

correctly pointed out that Congress has never attempted to conduct an impeachment inquiry against a sitting president "without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision" by passing a resolution by vote of the House.

Maybe true. But the DOJ has never refused to appoint a special counsel or prosecutor either. Forcing the House to do their own investigation. The vote has now been taken. So your objections have been satisfied...