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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (20185)11/13/2019 8:04:58 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37324
 
You know, it is pretty outlandish to think that children born here to foreign parents will not learn English when the same kids would have been beaten by their parents to learn English had they remained back home.

Immigrant parents tend to be much harder on their kids to do well in school than Canadians, And that means the kids will have to learn English well enough to do well in school. Which means they are learning English just fine.

My mom was teaching ESL to adults way back when. In her class was a Polish guy who'd come over more than 10 years before. When she asked him why he hadn't learned English so far and why now, he said that when he came he moved to an Italian neighborhood and worked in an Italian factory. So he became fluent in Italian, but not much in the way of English. But now he needs to help his kids in school and also wants the freedom to switch jobs.

That tells you just about everything you need to know. (1) whether you want it or not, you will learn the language of your environment. (2) It is not a "immigrants these days" kinda issue. There are Italian (and Chinese) immigrants from eons ago who still don't speak English because they didn't need it. (3) There are no kids born here (who go to school) and don't know English.

The same goes for the culture. I can't tell you how often I've seen kids sneak out for trick or treating or negotiate Halloween costumes with their parents - especially the ones who object to it on religious grounds. There are no kids who don't like getting Christmas presents. And by and large, parents give in, often for the feat that the kids may hate their own culture/religion/etc and theirs becomes an add-on rather than an exclusion. I have Jewish friends who celebrate Christmas for that same reason.