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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (151869)12/3/2019 7:36:21 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217615
 
re <<coincidentally>>

safe to ignore any and all neo people say about Team Huawei, because they sound bent, twisted, and just a hint of desperation, all against a tele-gear company

Wonder how much they are willing to sacrifice and still be frustrated

it is fortunate that team China holds the end-all protocol in reserve, that which hangs over Nasdaq

In the meantime I noticed that the portfolio is reacting well to the trade war progression

reuters.com

Exclusive: White House considered kicking Huawei out of U.S. banking system - sources

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration considered banning China’s Huawei from the U.S. financial system earlier this year as part of a host of policy options to thwart the blacklisted telecoms equipment giant, according to three people familiar with the matter.

FILE PHOTO: A Huawei company logo is pictured at the Shenzhen International Airport in Shenzhen, Guangdong province, China July 22, 2019. REUTERS/Aly Song/File Photo

The plan, which was ultimately shelved, called for placing Huawei Technologies Co Ltd [HWT.UL], the world’s second largest smartphone producer, on the Treasury Department’s Specially Designated Nationals (SDN) list.

One of the people familiar with the matter, who favors the move, said it could be revived in the coming months depending on how things go with Huawei.

The plan was considered by the White House National Security Council, and seen by officials as a nuclear option atop a ladder of policy tools to sanction the company, two of the people said. Such a designation can make it virtually impossible for a company to complete transactions in U.S. dollars.

Administration officials drafted a memo and held interagency meetings on the issue, according to one of the people, showing the extent to which administration officials mulled deploying the United States’ most aggressive sanctioning tool against the Chinese company.

Its use was tabled in favor of other measures, such as placing Huawei on a trade blacklist, which forces some suppliers to obtain a special license to sell to it.

Huawei did not respond to a request for comment. A Treasury spokesperson said the agency “does not comment on investigations or prospective actions, including to confirm whether one exists.”

Huawei would have been among the largest companies ever added to the list, which has included Russia’s Rusal, the world’s second largest aluminum company, Russian oligarchs, Iranian politicians and Venezuelan drug traffickers.

Annie Fixler, a cyber expert at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank, said designating the company “would have broad, widespread implications for Huawei across the globe,” noting that its business would be “severely impacted” in Europe and in Asia outside of China.

The U.S. government has brought criminal charges against Huawei, alleging theft of trade secrets, bank fraud, violations of U.S. sanctions against Iran, and has sought to convince allies to ban it from 5G networks over spying fears.

But placing the company on the “SDN list” would mean a host of logistical, diplomatic and economic difficulties for the U.S. government.

The designation prohibits American companies or citizens from trading or conducting financial transactions with those listed and freezes assets held in the United States.

Adding Huawei would therefore hammer U.S. allies that already rely on the company for their 4G networks, since almost all dollar payments clear through U.S. financial institutions.

The Treasury could grant licenses to exempt U.S. banks involved in those transactions. But it has generally shied away from doing so, concerned that too many exemptions would blunt the strength of the tool, experts said.

Huawei’s sprawling size, with dozens of subsidiaries, would significantly complicate enforcement and carve-out efforts, experts said.

“The larger an entity is, the harder it is for a U.S. Administration to foresee and prepare for the major effects, foreign and domestic, that placing it on the SDN list may cause” said Matthew Tuchband, a former Treasury official who added that careful consideration is needed before designating a company the size of Huawei.

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, who is seen by many China hawks in the administration as sympathetic to Beijing, has rarely overseen the use of the tool against China, designating a handful of Chinese persons for trafficking in fentanyl and over violations of sanctions against North Korea and Iran.

Nevertheless, some lawmakers still see designating Huawei as worth considering.

“Given Huawei’s relentless drive to dominate the 5G landscape, it is one of the most urgent national security threats facing the free world,” Republican Congressman Michael Gallagher said.

“All options should be on the table in order to impose maximum pressure,” he added.

Reporting by Alexandra Alper; editing by Chris Sanders and Edward Tobin



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (151869)12/3/2019 7:41:26 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217615
 
re <<coincidence>>s

more of them piling up

advanced huawei fever ... the desperation is evident and fear is ripe

Another example ... let’s see if the Neo people can figure out what could easily go wrong w/ below schema ...

My Ericsson long and Nokia short is reacting well, meaning not at all to the latest revelations, and continue to do as expected, as the option expiration tic-then-toc

bloomberg.com

U.S. to Tap $60 Billion War Chest in Boon for Huawei Rivals

Alistair Barr

December 3, 2019, 8:00 PM GMT+8


A billboard advertises Huawei’s Kirin 990 5G integrated circuit.

Photographer: Krisztian Bocsi/BloombergNokia, Ericsson may indirectly benefit from the financial help

The U.S. has been warning other countries not to buy telecommunications gear from China’s Huawei Technologies Co. and ZTE Corp. The government will soon put real money behind the effort.

A new agency, called the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, plans to tap some of its $60 billion budget to help developing countries and businesses purchase equipment from other companies.

“The U.S. is very focused on ensuring there’s a viable alternative to Huawei and ZTE. We don’t want to be out there saying no. We want to be out there saying yes,” Adam Boehler, the first chief executive officer of the DFC, said in a recent interview.

He declined to discuss specific company talks or how the money would be spent. However, the plans would be a welcome boost for Sweden’s Ericsson AB and Finland’s Nokia Oyj, which have struggled to compete with Huawei and ZTE equipment that’s often cheaper and at least as capable. The U.S. could bankroll Huawei alternatives through loans or loan guarantees to developing nations and companies, or even acquiring minority stakes in emerging makers of competing gear.

The U.S. government is concerned about these Chinese companies dominating the rollout of faster wireless networks known as 5G. The Trump administration has said Huawei and ZTE gear could be used for spying, an allegation the companies have denied. Many countries, including Germanyand France, are reluctant to ban individual vendors like Huawei.

How Huawei Became a Target for Governments: QuickTake

Huawei and ZTE “are state-owned enterprises or government-driven companies that subsidize their gear in some cases. The price is decent,” Boehler said. “Longer term, what is the cost of that? You shouldn’t think as a sovereign country from a short-term pricing perspective. Our focus is having people understand what they’re giving up and whether it’s worth it to save some money in the short term. It’s not.”

The DFC was created last year to provide development financing to lower income and middle-income countries, which covers about half the world. It’s charged with “helping to advance U.S. foreign policy by countering the growing influence of authoritarian regimes” and expects to be fully authorized and funded by Congress in coming months.

The DFC’s $60 billion investment cap is more than twice the size of its predecessor. The new agency can take minority equity stakes in companies, a new tool beyond existing capabilities that includes loans, loan guarantees and political risk insurance.

Boehler wouldn’t discuss which DFC tools might be used to support purchases of non-Chinese telecom equipment. However, the Financial Times reported in October that U.S. government officials have suggested issuing credit to Huawei’s European rivals.

Ericsson and Nokia didn’t respond to requests seeking comment.

Another senior government official recently told Bloomberg News that the U.S. is considering funding mechanisms through the DFC that will decrease the cost of alternative commercial 5G gear. The person asked not to be identified discussing unannounced plans.

The DFC is also considering whether to become a founding investor in a new technology infrastructure fund that will back emerging companies in 5G, artificial intelligence, quantum computing and other areas, Boehler said. The fund won’t invest in Chinese companies, he noted.

“This could support bids on spectrum, investments in infrastructure or the development of a component for 5G,” he said. “We want to make sure that the next crop of companies, if they’re not U.S.-based, that they at least adhere to the principals we care about -- the rule of law and data protection.”

“The real issue about Huawei is not China, it’s security of data,” he added. “We want to ensure that companies adhere to certain data-security standards and the protection people’s information.”

Ethiopia is in the midst of privatizing its telecom industry and is auctioning spectrum and licenses. Vodacom Group Ltd., majority owned by British wireless giant Vodafone Group Plc, is planning a joint bid with Kenyan operator Safaricom Plc.

“That is a live example that we can play in,” Boehler said. “There are no U.S. companies involved at this point, but the British are bidding.”



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (151869)8/30/2023 5:14:02 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217615
 
following up re Huawei Huawei Huawei, say from circa 2019
Message 32441622
Huawei CEO: ‘We Can Survive Without the U.S.’

... now the counterattack gets underway without any marketing cost, 5G coupled with 5 nm processor chip, and sporting satellite communication connectivity, IOW a seriously sexy handset, a sort of 5G / Starlinks combo gadget. Galaxy, iPhone, or Huawei Mate 60Pro? Am going to guess Galaxy bites it first, and Apple best make a deal with Starlinks. All just in time to present the Trump with a gift especially if going on campaign trail.

bloomberg.com

Huawei’s Mystery Phone Rallies China in Fight Against US Curbs

- Chip stocks climb on social media buzz about 5G capability

- The company is at the heart of a US tech containment campaign


Customers line up to make an appointment to buy Huawei's Mate 60pro mobile phone at Huawei's flagship store in Shanghai.

Source: CFOTO/Future Publishing/Getty Images

By Bloomberg News

30 August 2023 at 11:55 GMT+8
Updated on
30 August 2023 at 14:38 GMT+8

The surprise launch of a sophisticated $900-plus Huawei Technologies Co. smartphone has captivated China’s technology industry, inspiring hopes that the country’s biggest firms can overcome US sanctions seemingly designed to thwart their ascendancy.

The slim-bezeled Mate 60 Pro, which appeared this week for sale on online malls with little fanfare, ignited buzz among Chinese online users who saw in the gadget Huawei’s resurgence after years of fighting American curbs on software and circuitry. Many posted screenshots and videos of the gadget’s fast wireless performance, triggering speculation Huawei had managed to achieve 5G capabilities.


Huawei’s Mate 60 Pro.Source: Huawei

Investors bought in. On Wednesday, shares in more than a dozen Chinese chip designers, gearmakers and Huawei suppliers surgedbetween 8% and 20%. The rally grew out of hopes that Huawei had somehow managed to design, manufacture and deploy a 5G chip capable of matching some of the best America has to offer, despite a lack of access to advanced chipmaking at players including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.
Bloomberg News wasn’t able to verify the authenticity of those reports. The Chinese telecom regulator’s website didn’t show registration details for the model, as required of all wireless smartphones sold in the country.

But the torrent of online reports only gained momentum, in part because of Huawei’s unique status as Chinese national champion and American bugbear. On Wednesday, it topped the list of trending topics on Weibo, China’s X-like equivalent. The very idea appeared to endorse the “whole nation” narrative Beijing has espoused, where a nationwide effort can produce breakthroughs to counter the US.



The Mate 60 Pro is powered by a Kirin processor designed by Huawei’s chip arm HiSilicon, according to multiple teardown videos circulating online. Several online outlets reported the chip employed 5-nanometer node technology — just a generation behind the latest. Bloomberg News couldn’t determine the manufacturer or sophistication of the chip.

Chinese chipmakers aren’t known to have mastered technologies as advanced as 5-nm. Huawei stockpiled such chips from TSMC right before US sanctions hit, but it’s unclear whether the Mate 60 Pro might have used remnants of the company’s inventory.

The phone’s emergence coincides with a high-profile visit by US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo to Beijing and Shanghai. Her agency has been at the forefront of curbs on Chinese entities including Huawei.

“This new phone has huge significance. Though it is evident that Huawei was able to build this model only by sourcing and production in a roundabout way, regardless of what it went though to achieve this, Huawei did it,” said Shi Junbo, a fund manager at Hangzhou XiYan Asset Management Co.

Huawei's Push Into ChipsThe leading US chip association says the Chinese telecom company is moving into semiconductor production



Source: Semiconductor Industry Assn., Bloomberg

Chinese chip firms and Huawei suppliers including Lontium Semiconductor Corp., Cambricon Technologies Corp. and Anker Innovations Technology Co. climbed between 8% and 11%. Biwin Storage Technology Co. and Guangdong Leadyo IC Testing Co.surged their 20% daily limits. Top Chinese chipmaker Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. climbed as much as 6.4% in Hong Kong.

“But in terms of the sentiment lift for the industry today, that shares have been at their lows probably is the more important factor than the phone. One model is probably not going to be enough to have a lasting impact on the sector,” Shi added.

The rally was unusual not just for a lack of evidence to support the online enthusiasm, but also because it coincides with warning signs of Chinese financial and economic stress — in part because of US pressure.

Huawei is one of several Chinese companies at the center of Washington-Beijing tensions, the target of sanctions over allegations it aids China’s military. The company, once the world’s biggest telecommunications provider, has been pulling out the stops since the Trump administration added Huawei to its Entities List in 2019.

Huawei began by assigning thousands of engineers to try and replicate American technology, for instance in wireless chips. And it also began putting in place the infrastructure to ensure its future survival.

The leading association of global chip companies warned this year that Huawei is building a collection of semiconductor-fabrication facilities across China, a shadow manufacturing network that would let the blacklisted company turn its chip designs into reality.

It remains unclear how Huawei could have found workarounds to some of the most sweeping restrictions on China that the US has ever imposed. Many in America have said Huawei enjoys broad government support, in part because of its critical role in domestic infrastructure and its stature overseas. When then-Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou was detained in Canada, Beijing officials intervened to secure her freedom.

Now, investors hope that Huawei can inspire its peers, several of which also labor under sanctions of varying severity. The Mate 60’s launch will be a catalyst for more homegrown, high-end smartphones, and trigger demand in the supply chain especially amid a downturn in semiconductors, Huajin Securities analysts including Sun Yuanfeng wrote in a note.

“It paves the way for Huawei to recover its shipments even quicker in its home country, with an almost zero-cost launch event,” Canalys Senior Vice President Nicole Peng said. “If the rumors are true, it means Huawei’s R&D capabilities have largely exceeded the industry development timeline, which means it creates huge disruption to the semi industry and its competitors.”

— With assistance by John Liu, April Ma, Yuan Gao, and Debby Wu



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (151869)9/4/2023 4:00:48 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217615
 
Besides this Message 34399445

Bloomberg just commissioned below, and is in the denial stage

Bloomberg actually believes Team Huawei did gimmicky-release of Huawei Mate 60 Pro launch using 2019 stockpiled Kirin 9000 chips even though we are talking Kirin 9000S of this day

My source says Team Huawei shall have as many as need of Kirin 9000S by October of this year, meaning next month, in time for Chinese Lunar New Year self-gifting.

Whom to put faith in? I dunno, but can use 2 box sets of Huawei Mate 60 Pro + Huawei Watch Ultimate, one set unopened for deep-storage and another to play with. Unclear how I might engage with the satellite communications function as such supposedly only for subscribers in mainland China.

I wait for yearend and see if sat comm feature available here in backward HK.

:0)))

bloomberg.com

Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

The company’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by SMIC’s 7nm chips, according to analysis that TechInsights conducted for Bloomberg News

By Vlad Savov and Debby Wu

4 September 2023 at 14:38 GMT+8

Huawei Technologies Co. and China’s top chipmaker have built an advanced 7-nanometer processor to power its latest smartphone, a sign Beijing is making early progress in a nationwide push to circumvent US efforts to contain its ascent.

Huawei’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by a new Kirin 9000s chip that was fabricated in China by Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp., according to a teardown of the handset that TechInsights conducted for Bloomberg News. The processor is the first to utilize SMIC’s most advanced 7nm technology and suggests the Chinese government is making some headway in attempts to build a domestic chip ecosystem, according to the research firm.


The Huawei Mate 60 Pro.Photographer: James Park/Bloomberg

Much remains unknown about SMIC and Huawei’s progress, including whether they can make chips in volume or at reasonable cost. But the Mate 60 silicon raises questions about the efficacy of a US-led global campaign to prevent China’s access to cutting-edge technology, driven by fears it could be used to boost Chinese military capabilities.

With its export controls last year, the US administration tried to draw a line at preventing China from getting access to 14nm chips, or about eight years behind the most advanced technology. The US had also blacklisted both Huawei and SMIC. Now China has demonstrated it can produce at least limited quantities of chips five years behind the cutting-edge, inching closer to its objective of self-sufficiency in the critical area of semiconductors.

“It's a pretty important statement for China,” TechInsights Vice Chair Dan Hutcheson said. “SMIC’s technology advances are on an accelerated trajectory, and appear to have addressed yield-impacting issues in their 7nm technology.”

The teardown by TechInsights -- which has spent decades investigating the electronic innards of hundreds of devices for some of the world's biggest tech firms -- represents the most authoritative analysis of the Mate 60 Pro's components since its abrupt introduction ignited a frenzy of speculation. Huawei quietly released the phone online last week without detailing key specifications, like the processor design or the wireless connection speeds. It came during a visit to China by US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo, whose agency imposed many of the key export controls on China.


A specialist at TechInsights disassembles a Huawei Mate 60 Pro smartphone.Photographer: James Park/Bloomberg


The Mate 60 Pro is powered by a new Kirin 9000s chip that was fabricated in China by SMIC.Photographer: James Park/Bloomberg

The phone has sparked speculation because Huawei is at the center of Washington-Beijing tensions, the target of sanctions over allegations it aids China’s military. Once the world’s biggest telecommunications provider, it’s been pulling out the stops to research alternatives to American circuitry since the Trump administration added Huawei to its Entities List in 2019.

The Mate 60 advance could reset the contest for tech supremacy, as it suggests Huawei is able to come close to, though not quite match, the fastest mobile devices using a chip that’s designed and produced in China. Testing by Bloomberg News showed the Mate 60 Pro capable of cellular speeds on a par with 5G devices like Apple Inc.’s latest iPhones.

It also raises questions about SMIC’s compliance with US rules stipulating that any company intending to supply Huawei using American technology — which is present throughout SMIC’s operations — must obtain Washington’s approval.

Representatives for Huawei and SMIC did not respond to several requests for comments about the phone’s specs since its release last week. Huawei has said only that the Mate 60 Pro is the most powerful Mate device yet. The Commerce Department did not respond to queries about whether SMIC’s supply of 7nm chips to Huawei violates sanctions.


The SMIC chip.Photographer: James Park/Bloomberg

Even at its most advanced, Chinese chipmaking has a performance gap to make up, as the main processor in the Mate 60 Pro is two generations behind the latest technology, according to the teardown by TechInsights, whose findings lent weight to unsubstantiated reports posted by amateur technicians, bloggers and influencers on Chinese social media.

Apple’s current iPhones are built at 4nm and next week it will introduce a new flagship iPhone powered by a 3nm chip.

Shenzhen-based Huawei and Shanghai-based SMIC may already be approaching the ceiling of what they can achieve without more advanced chipmaking machinery. To move beyond 7nm, iPhone supplier Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. utilizes extreme ultraviolet lithography machines from ASML Holding NV. China is completely prohibited from importing those machines.

It is unclear how many units of the new device Huawei intends to produce. The Mate 60 Pro sold out almost immediately and appears to have been available in very limited quantities. It was welcomed with an outburst of patriotic fervor across Chinese social media, and national outlets like CCTV and the Global Times lauded it as a symbol of China’s irrepressible spirit.

Huawei’s consumer business took a heavy blow after the company was cut off from chipmakers like TSMC three years ago, when its smartphones were the clear growth driver for one of China’s biggest tech manufacturers. Its consumer sales are now less than half the size they were before the sanctions took effect, and the company has shifted its focus to developing technology for enterprise, cloud and automotive applications.

Analysts at Jefferies, including Edison Lee, cautioned that Huawei’s Mate 60 may not signal the kind of progress in chips as it first appears. They wrote that selling out of Huawei's phones in hours suggests limited inventory. They also suggested that Huawei may be powering some Mate 60s with chips from TSMC, which it had stockpiled before the US cut off such purchases.

In a report entitled “Huawei Mate 60 Pro: More Myths Than Fact,” the Jefferies team said it thinks China can produce only a “very small” volume of 7nm chips.

— With assistance by Yuan Gao



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (151869)9/4/2023 5:40:33 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217615
 
Continuing Huawei watch & brief

Continues to look good, for an employee-owned company that took on entire CW’s governing authorities, and besting them all

sparrowsnews.com

WSJ: Huawei Increases Mate 60 Pro Orders to 15-17 Million
Kamlesh Bhati

In the ever-evolving world of smartphones, the recent launch of the Huawei Mate 60 Series has caused quite a stir. As of September 1st, the device has seen impressive sales figures, igniting curiosity about Huawei’s ultimate goals for this flagship product.

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According to a notable blogger’s report, the Mate 60 Pro, available for 6,999 yuan, has garnered an estimated 800,000 sales, exclusively through Huawei Mall and Jingdong Mall, as well as offline channels in Shenzhen. It’s important to note that this figure only accounts for one model in the Mate 60 Series, and it doesn’t include purchases from regional agents and dealers, further emphasizing its popularity.

What’s even more intriguing is the news from the Wall Street Journal, revealing that Huawei has raised orders ranging from 15 to 17 million units for the Mate 60 Pro alone. This impressive demand has only continued to grow since the initial launch. Dealers are gearing up for a widespread release of the Mate 60 Pro in Huawei’s offline stores starting September 10.

In addition to the Mate 60 Pro, rumors are swirling about the upcoming release of the Mate 60 Pro+ and the Porsche-designed Mate 60 RS version, complementing the standard edition. With this quartet of offerings, Huawei seems poised to compete head-to-head with Apple’s iPhone 15 Series when it hits the market.


Huawei Mate 60 Pro New Promotional Video

The Mate 60 Series’ remarkable performance in a competitive market segment has stirred optimism among analysts about Huawei’s resurgence in the domestic high-end smartphone market. As the series continues to gain momentum and anticipation builds for its expanded lineup, it’s clear that Huawei has once again become a major player in the world of premium smartphones.

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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (151869)9/5/2023 5:47:40 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217615
 
Not to be outdone by Team Huawei’s Mate 60 Pro with satellite this and 100 meters waterproof that, Team Honor, the Huawei spin-off launches Honor V Purse for the girlz