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To: phoenix who wrote (3433)1/23/1998 5:47:00 PM
From: Jim Mills  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3977
 
Thanks Roger, Yes it did help.
I also found out that.... Quadrax will be at the hockey show in Canada Sun, Mon, Tue and Wednesday. They will also be at the Golf show in Orlando Florida next week..... Maybe it would be a better Idea to sell just Raw material and also keep their golf and hockey stick division.... But go full force with Victor.

Thanks,

Jim M.



To: phoenix who wrote (3433)1/24/1998 3:18:00 PM
From: R.S. Blum  Respond to of 3977
 
Roger,

Thanks for taking the time to articulate your conversation with Alon. I hear what you're relaying but his points just don't make sense.

First, I absolutely wouldn't believe a doggone thing any of these guys would say directly unless it was recorded or in writing so, it's a waste of my time to call. If they don't want to publically correspond to their shareholders because they fear what they would say would be held against them only furthers my concern of their inability to tell the truth. If they where honest, they would have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Second, to have to ask an attorney to clear whether they can whisper info back to the thread is a stupid comment. I mean jeesh, they've already been doing that for months. What's the big deal now? I suppose Alon specifically asked you NOT to post your conversation? Alon, give it a break. The lack of intelligence is appalling. See, this is exactly the perpetuation of the same old BS. Use one of us as guinnea pigs to state their case without the confining liabily through ownership of the statement. Anything turns out to be 'misconstrued' is merely the posters lack of communication. Read the old posts, they've used many mules around here.

Third, 'shoot the messenger'? What messenger? We're paying for a messenger? For WHAT? Isn't an IR persons job to find a positive spin to announce to allow some degree of confidence? Something--Anything? What the hell are we paying for? Or as we're told, what were we paying for? Does anyone remember a little company named Chysler that had a CEO who announced his salary fast until things turned around? Man, that went along way in installing the confidence to allow a turnaround.

Now, go figure that dumb old me has to tell this professional IR turkey that this might be something worth examining? Or is it really that they don't want to put that unsubstantiated, potential lie in writing? Hmmmmmm...

Forth, nice to hear we have another about-face in the works. About the only comforting thought I have is, good thing they don't have the money to make the same mistakes over again. The intelligence and ability of our leaders is scary. How many dead-ends is one CEO allowed before they're sent back to school? I bet I can think of one college out there who wants their car window sticker back!

Fifth, Victors 'profit' surely is not going to go along way in supporting our little hero's salaries. By the way, great growth potential and great new technologies. Should prove to be the hot industry for the next decade. Good to see this boy-blunder bought us a beautiful brick for our corporate anchor.

So here I sit, supposing to be indebted to all these great guys working for 'nothing' while my investment crumbles? Who the @#$%'s fault is that? Mine??? Frankly, IMHO, I have yet to find anyone in this remarkable panel of great managers who have done ANYTHING deserving of compensation. Don't do me any damn favors...

Roger, thanks again. I didn't mean to shoot any arrows your way,
-Scott



To: phoenix who wrote (3433)1/26/1998 9:35:00 AM
From: jeffrey rainey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3977
 
Roger

Thanks for your thoughts and conversation with Alon.I to agree with Scott,How many times do we hit the brick wall turn around and slam full force into another one? This is SO old and lame! I have felt that Alon was as Forthright as he was able to be under the curcumstances,ie. under Jims thumb..But 25 million and only 1 million in profit.... Hello are the profit margins that small in this industry????I think NOT..Roger my loss vs your Smarts is not why we are here, we, both of us and many more were honest to goodness believers in this company! They said we are on the cutting edge... We will make this happen.... we are on the 3 yard line poised to win...
So we believers did what believers do we gave them the cash to make our combined dreams come true.Some of us gave more then others but we all comitted what we could (some like Jim can't stop giving)Do we have a golden parachute? NOT A SINGLE ONE IN SIGHT! Do they? I think they must and it's connected to a cord set! Anyone agree?

Jeff