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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (152619)2/4/2020 11:18:09 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217755
 
Just shorted TSLA at USD 1180, 1100, and 1000, by shorting naked Calls February 21st 2020 Strikes 1180, 1100, and 1100

I should be able to abscond w/ the loot free and clear, good title, legally, by 21st February, a few weeks away. And, if not, then I am long-term-short-&-hold at those strike prices. In the meantime, should TSLA ramp more, I intend to short more. Am calling BS BS.

As far as I am concerned TSLA declared dividends, and I walk by the armored truck and grabbed a sackful

I need the money to exchange for more palladium

But yes, does feel like as if i am shorting bitcoins (which I would never ever do), and long ether bits (also would never do, because I do not know what they are). Is okay, I can stand the tension for 17 days.






To: Maurice Winn who wrote (152619)2/4/2020 11:49:20 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217755
 
Since i need funding for March and April, before nodding off I shorted TSLA naked calls strike 1500

The armored truck was not guarded.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (152619)2/4/2020 8:31:08 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217755
 
Am I afraid? Yes
Am I terrified? Not yet
Which means either I have wagered enough, and / or I do not understand the situation.

Just in in-tray

On 5 Feb 2020, at 9:08 AM, S wrote:
Tesla's Bid to End Billion-Dollar Investor Fraud Suit Could Fail

(Bloomberg Intelligence) -- Tesla likely won't win dismissal of securities fraud lawsuits over CEO Elon Musk's August 2018 Twitter posting that he was considering taking Tesla private and had "funding secured." A ruling on the dismissal bid could come in 3Q. The case may settle for a fraction of the alleged billions of dollars in damages. (02/04/20)

1. What's at Stake?

Over $1 billion.

Tesla's top-end risk in shareholder suits over Musk's going-private tweet could be over $1 billion, according to investor complaints. Settlement value could be closer to 2.5-5% of alleged losses. Investors claim the tweet prompted short sellers to cover positions at artificially high prices and resulted in mark-to-market losses of $1.1 billion. The class as a whole alleges billions of dollars in damages. Tesla's market cap allegedly declined by $5 billion following reports a deal wasn't final.

Last reviewed by Holly Froum on 08/19/19, original publish: (01/22/19)

2. Who's Favored?

Investors.

Investors are favored in fraud suits against Tesla over Musk's "funding secured" tweet. That tweet, along with talks with investors after the original post, could be deemed recklessly misleading, given the purported funding entity apparently hadn't approved the buyout price Musk tweeted. Factual issues could defeat Tesla's argument that investors haven't adequately alleged loss causation or that Musk's intent didn't meet legal thresholds.

(11/26/19)

3. What's Next?

Hearing on dismissal bid March 6.

A March 6 hearing is set for Tesla's bid to dismiss securities fraud claims. Tesla's Nov. 22 filing argues that investors haven't adequately alleged Musk's statements were misleading or that they can be attributed to Tesla.

Fact issues likely defeat Tesla's arguments on the toss bid. Opposition was filed Dec. 27. Final briefing was filed Jan. 27. A ruling may be returned in 3Q. (02/04/20)

Next Key Event:

Hearing on Motion to Dismiss Suit
Expected March 6, 2020

Last Key Event:
Dismissal Bid Briefing Ended
Jan. 27, 2020

4. What's the Issue?

Securities fraud claims.

Tesla faces investor suits, proposed as class actions, claiming losses over a 10-day class period after Musk tweeted he's considering privatizing Tesla and had "funding secured." Investors claim funding wasn't lined up and Musk aimed to punish short-sellers. It's also alleged Musk doubled down in later posts when he engaged with Twitter followers about how he might privatize Tesla. Deals in related SEC suits against Musk and Tesla were approved Oct. 16. A Justice Department probe remains open.

Last reviewed by Holly Froum on 12/09/19, original publish: (10/26/18)

From: S
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 9:00 AM
Subject: (BN) Tesla Is More Overbought Than Bitcoin During Height of Bubble


(BN) Tesla Is More Overbought Than Bitcoin During Height of Bubble

Tesla Is More Overbought Than Bitcoin During Height of Bubble
2020-02-04 15:21:46.823 GMT

By Luke Kawa
(Bloomberg) -- Commenting on the meteoric rise in Tesla Inc., GLJ Research’s Gordon Johnson declared the share surge to be a bubble that’s “effectively Bitcoin on wheels.”

Hyperbole? No. By one technical indicator, the speed of Tesla’s rally exceeds that of the cryptocurrency at its peak.

The 14-day relative strength index (RSI), a gauge of the magnitude and persistence of price movements, stands at 92.5 for the automaker. In December 2017, when Bitcoin traded as high as $19,511, the 14-day RSI failed to break 91. However, at other times in the past, Bitcoin was more technically overbought than Tesla is at present.

An asset is considered overbought if the RSI exceeds 70, and oversold if below 30.

Read More: Novogratz Earned ‘Black Eye’ Shorting Tesla, Still Sees Bubble



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (152619)2/7/2020 5:16:06 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217755
 
Just in in-tray

Vast majority of reports upped price target in the last few days by chump change and remain way below current Tesla price.

In the movie "1917" as the two young soldiers trudged across no--man land (at least no live man) they must have wondered how did the dead bodies end up in the arena, and realised that they came the same way the two youngsters did, charging in.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Cowen on TSLA TP $280

THE COWEN INSIGHT

Management continued to provide a rosy outlook with little details on the moving financial pieces or the challenges we expect to see play out with Model 3 demand in 2020. We are raising our estimates on a pull forward of the Model Y launch and FSD revenue recognition.

We reiterate our Underperform rating and raise our price target to $280 from $225.

Success That is Baked Into the Stock Is Likely to Prove Optimistic

We continue to see the stock as extremely overvalued, and the mental gymnastics needed in both growth assumptions and buying in to the "tech" multiple needed to make the math work are staggering for an auto company that has struggled to scale in the past. Historically the stock has "worked" in the planning stages, and not in the execution phase, which we are now entering. Our $280 price target is based off of a blend of a ~20x P/E multiple on our 2022 EPS estimate of $14.95, and a ~20x multiple on our 2022 EBITDA estimate of $6.0bn.

We don't see the technology advantage Tesla has on electrification as insurmountable, and more than likely is closed over the next 2-3 years with the next generation of launches by competitors, and believe the company pulling forward the Model Y is likely the "canary in the coal mine" that the story of unlimited demand that management continues to tell is unlikely to result in the mid-term ramp to ~1.5mn vehicles the market appears to be baking into the stock.




To: Maurice Winn who wrote (152619)2/8/2020 10:15:37 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217755
 
Under the circumstances my somewhat and suddenly lopsided (not considering real estate, physical metals and cash) portfolio of short-Tesla-call and everything-else-except-Tesla seem well-timed. Was less sure Friday night and more sure now, Sunday morning.

However, and is a big-enough ‘however’, is it ever wise to short a religion? I aim to find out ...

ft.com

Elon Musk pits an army of Tesla fans against Wall Street
The electric car maker’s chief stokes retail investors’ ardour and levitates share price

February 7 2020


Elon Musk has presided over a sharp rise in Tesla's share price, despite scepticism over the Cybertruck and earlier production problems © FT montage; Getty ImagesOn Sunday, the day before Tesla’s stock would rocket to a new high, Elon Musk, the company’s chief executive, announced an event at his house for computer programmers on Twitter and invited Vivien Hantusch, a student in Germany, to attend.

Ms Hantusch, who studies product design, will sell a single share in Tesla to buy her flight from Düsseldorf to California to take part, she said. Mr Musk frequently responds to her tweets, but “he hasn’t told us anything yet” about the event.

The German student is part of a global Tesla fan base who own the electric car maker’s stock and champion the views of Mr Musk online. They also fight back against Tesla detractors, like the short sellers that have sparred online with Mr Musk for years.

“It was the first stock I ever invested in — with Tesla, I felt I had to support the company, especially [given] the short sellers,” said Ms Hantusch, who bought the shares in 2018. “I don’t do this to get a profit or a job, I do this because I love the company.”

In November Ms Hantusch and a group of Tesla fans launched Third Row, a podcast focused on the company. Last month they recorded an episode with Mr Musk in one of his houses, the former home of Gene Wilder on the slopes of Bel Air in Los Angeles. Mr Musk brought his dog, Marvin the Martian, and his mother Maye Musk, the fashion model, who also brought her dog.

“The dogs were running around and Marvin the Martian was sitting on my lap,” said Sofiaan Fraval, a software engineer in Santa Barbara, California, who produces the podcast and also owns a Tesla and stock in the company. “That was so cool.”

Tesla’s online fan base has spawned podcasts, dedicated channels on YouTube and an incessant stream of social media posts that frame the company as an agent of change at the crossroads of technology and the environment, not simply a carmaker struggling to turn a profit.

In nurturing this group of supporters with daily tweets and face-to-face meetups, Mr Musk has struck a chord with his customers and retail shareholders. In the process, he has built an arsenal of defenders that amplify his views online and take up arms against critics, including the short sellers who profit when Tesla stock falls in value.


Last week Tesla announced a $105m fourth-quarter profit that set the share price alight. On Monday trading volume spiked to a record level and on Tuesday the stock hit a new high of $887 before easing later in the week. The stock has gained 79 per cent this year. These types of moves are driven by institutional investors and momentum-driven automated trading strategies, but retail investors also play a role. Tesla is the 15th most held stock by investors on the Robinhood stock trading app, with more than 150,000 users owning its shares.

The rising price marks a win for Mr Musk against the short-sellers and sceptical Wall Street analysts who complain about the company’s financial picture.

The billionaire founder has stoked an “us versus them” war between his retail investor fan base and Wall Street. In 2018 he stated in a tweet that he had secured funding to take Tesla private at $420 a share. In the discussion online that followed, he promised retail investors that he would find a way to keep them on as shareholders. The funding was not secured, and Mr Musk later settled claimswith the US securities regulator over the episode.

I’m a 38-year-old man and I’m getting excited when a middle-aged man responds to me on Twitter

Sam Kelly, Tesla shareholder
On a public conference call to discuss Tesla’s earnings last week, Mr Musk said many retail investors “have better insights than many of the analysts”. In 2018 he declined to respond to one analyst’s question, saying “boring, bonehead questions are not cool”, and spoke at length instead to Galileo Russell, a retail investor.

Mr Russell has since launched a dedicated YouTube channel called HyperChangeTV, where he speaks supportively of Tesla. The channel has become a full-time job delivering “six-figure revenue”, he said. He has met Mr Musk multiple times, had a private tour of a Tesla factory and has partnered with a start-up to crowdsource questions from retail investors to pose during Tesla’s earnings calls.

“I think the Wall Street complex is crumbling,” Mr Russell said. “People don’t listen to analysts any more because they were wrong on one of the biggest, most disruptive companies in this era, potentially in this whole century.”

Toby Clothier of Mirabaud Securities in London is one such analyst. His sober views of Tesla based on its financial data indicate the current stock price has detached from reality. He points to weakening market share in Europe and a fear the profit generated in the fourth quarter will wither. But he has adapted to the rally. “We have prefaced virtually all of our work on this stock for the last month with the caveat that this stock has developed a life of its own,” he said.

Mr Clothier worries retail investors will buy the stock after the sharp rise of recent weeks just in time for it to lose value. “There is a dream aspect to this whole story that has nothing to do with what is happening now,” he said.

Sam Kelly, a UK expat who lives outside Valencia in Spain, owns Tesla stock and a Tesla car. He frequently posts positive news about the company on Twitter, where Mr Musk has responded to his tweets.

“He’s a geeky guy like the rest of us and that’s why I think people feel that connection with him,” he said. “It’s strange, I’m a 38-year-old man and I’m getting excited when a middle-aged man responds to me on Twitter.”

These Tesla supporters acknowledge their support is beneficial to Mr Musk and Tesla, but insist the interactions with the billionaire are genuine.

“We’re not being used,” said Mr Fraval, from the Third Row podcast. “We love this technology and we really appreciate what Elon is doing.”



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (152619)2/16/2020 7:23:17 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217755
 
(1) As suspected, we just got possible confirmation of the sort of folks in the trenches of the war for and against the Tesla.

(2) My takeaway? continue long-range artillery barrage, by naked short call options arrayed in layers, at various distances, of different but out-of-the-money strike prices (810 - 900 - 1500), and w/ expiration dates ranging from end of this week to middle of January 2021,

(3) modulate the nearer term risks (the naked short calls w/ strike 810 expiring end of this week) by sending some infantry into the equity trenches, but to pullback at trembling trigger finger at moments hesitation, and

(4) if still nervous, buy lots of way-out-of-money long-dated puts as rear guard ambush action, in case the infantry withdraw turns chaotic

(5) because the opposition is comprised of other types of day traders and they may not be of high conviction even if many are taking on religion risks

(6) Even as the supposed professionals are running scared but presumably have more fire power to bullet-storm the dumbest of the dumb, not realising that they themselves are at the mercy of people's war
zerohedge.com

Hedge Fund CIO: Guys Text Me All Day, The Dumbest Of The Dumb Are Making Hundreds Of Thousands Daytrading Tesla Right Now

Submitted by Eric Peters, CIO of One River Asset Management

"You always knew you’d know it when you saw it,” said Roadrunner. “But you could never be sure what it would look like until you saw it,” continued the market’s biggest equity vol trader. “This is it - now we know. We’re in this cycle’s euphoria stage,” said Roadrunner.

“The Tesla move we just saw is unlike anything I’ve experienced.” Amazon trades 2.5-3.0mm shares on a busy day. Tesla traded 60mm. “1.4mm Tesla options traded. And vol was 170. I’m guessing that in notional terms it was the busiest day for a single stock in history."



"The Tesla flows are mostly retail,” continued Roadrunner. “And most of the flow is in one-week options.” Which tells you it’s pure speculation. “Guys text me all day. And the dumbest of the dumb are making hundreds of thousands in their personal accounts right now.” Animal spirits have been unleashed. The shift by brokers to offer zero-commission equity-trading added to the market’s energy.

“This is Millennial kind of action. It’s like it was in 1999. It’s a race to the top, fear of missing out kind of move,” said Roadrunner, glancing left, right, up.



"This year is set to be wild,” said Roadrunner. “The big bear market probably waits till right after the election, and it won’t matter if Trump wins or loses,” he said.

So that means you need to get out well ahead of Nov, because bear markets have a way of outsmarting almost everyone,” said Roadrunner. “And as this phase ends, the question is what will replace it?” he asked, stopping to scan the horizon. “I wonder if Larry Fink’s recent ESG theme kicks off a self-fulfilling bubble in a whole group of new names. Maybe Tesla is showing us the way."

"Sentiment is not yet off the charts,” bellowed Biggie Too. “And the data does not say boom or bust, inflation or deflation,” continued the global chief investment strategist for one of Wall Street’s too-big-to-fail affairs. “It’s just that when you get rates this low, liquidity this high, and volatility so tame, something unexpected shows up and wrecks the party,” barked Biggie, no stranger to a late-night rager.

“When you get growth stocks this stretched, technology, bonds, something comes along, always,” said Too, eyes closed, breaking into a gentle groove.

"Scratch and sniff this bull market and you smell something not quite right,” continued Biggie. “Something deflationary. Not reflationary,” he said. 10yr bond yields dropped 6bps on Friday’s +225k payroll. “Maybe it’ll be a break to new lows in bond yields or a burst above 100 on the dollar index that brings on our next Minsky moment,” said Biggie, his golden smile widening, bringing it home.

“Maybe it took investors 10yrs to realize that lower interest rates equal higher asset prices, only to discover that lower interest rates equal lower asset prices."