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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (14973)1/31/2020 2:06:31 PM
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Pogeu Mahone

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I do not regard the simple enforcement of civil rights as activism. It was a necessary legal enforcement of citizen rights. I saw discrimination from many sides. Being a service brat I lived a large part of my life in a society that had little toleration for discrimination, and I freely associated with children of all races, much as I did in Hawaii. I was brought home to the reality when the local Catholic baseball team refused to participate with us (the Fort baseball team) because we had a black pitcher.(and sacrificed use of the base fields) I have many other tales of the NORTH which are just as disgusting and sad. The situation was little better in DC. Fuller integration (recognition and enforcement of citizen rights) was painful but necessary..

Activists were recruited to draw draw attention to the south and away from NORTHERN racism by Northern power brokers. It was a two faced dishonest liberal diversion from the fact that racism was rampant throughout the country. It fell apart when northern industries realized they needed more labor and began hiring blacks. The Italians, Germans, Irish, East Europeans, had all gained their piece of the economic pie, but had not lost their fear of losing it.

If you think your northern neighborhood was any better in its attitudes you are being very dishonest.. They simply had it under stricter control and were more ready to use force. The same goes for today. Northern cities are much more bigoted than the South even now. The south had its reactions to the Civil War and the carpetbagger era. 100 years is not that many generations. I am not defending the southern attitudes, just noting that the racism is more complex there. The real Ni, Ni, Black haters were, and are in northern 'industrial' cities. Where the threats were economic, and the attitudes were deeply ingrained in remnants of the european social power structure from where these people came.

I don't doubt that what you saw was real. I don't defend those practices. In odd quirks of fate my family occasionally fell victim to them.

But activists were deluded. They went south because they could not face the evil in their own neighborhoods. They willingly tore up the south because they knew they would die all the quicker in their own cities. It is always somebody else who has to reform and be forced to do so. The fact that your Irish and German neighbors react violently as a society to other foreigners coming into their neighborhoods is avoided. Because you know your little brother and sister will face serious problems if you push the local priest or school to change its ways.

The real civil rights activists were the army of young lawyers who joined the Justice Department and went South and North to seek enforcement of the laws. Laws passed by the administration of a Southern raised President.

But my real disgust for activism was for the generation later. The Abby Hoffman's, Chicago 7 gang, the liberal educated socialists whose leaders are the radical destroyers who pushed for bloody revolution and disrespect of our institutions. These were activists that were really communist radical subversives. And who did and still do seek the destruction of our way of Life. The Russians, the Chinese, have come around to the realities of socialism and communism. We willing seem to be ready to throw the most basic concepts of freedom out because we lack to will to understand the reality of life.

You want to understand this country? Try and serve it. Quit bitching about what you don't want to do or never did. FO!, at least until you've been out in the trenches DOING something.



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (14973)1/31/2020 6:14:09 PM
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Pogeu Mahone

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Not sure WTF planet you live on :)....You say.....

I reread you response and I realized......

You are a fking CAnuk!!!! From Montreal. Did you see a non-white face in Montreal in 1971??? Quebec a place that can not even decide what language it officially speaks.

And you are lecturing me on my understanding of my country? Which you have been a tourist in a few times???

Just like the young white liberal northerners who went south to change the world because they were afraid of their own city ghettos. Damn ....You don't even begin to understand what world you are living in. You certainly don't understand what world the US was living in in the sixties.

Ask the first nations of Canada how they were treated in the sixties. There was no 'separate but equal' (which was a travesty) because you never had to look at the northern people in your cities and towns and schools. Economic discrimination made their exclusion a certainty. Even today less than 33 percent of the population is European.

A true spaced out liberal who supports forcing other people and places to do what they themselves never had the balls to do.

No need to ask you what planet you live on. You live way out there in the hemorrhoid zone! You live in Montreal, Quebec Canada.