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To: Ibexx who wrote (46359)1/25/1998 1:51:00 AM
From: Barry A. Watzman  Respond to of 186894
 
Ibexx, as you mostly agreed with me, I mostly agree with you.

As I said at the end of my message, he probably (almost certainly) lied about his own sexual activity, if that was the extent of it I would probably be willing to forgive him.

He might have either encouraged others to lie and/or obstructed justice, and I probably would not be able to forgive him for this, but the facts are much less clear in this regard.

All of that said, and no matter what the outcome, where we differ is that I do not believe that there is any comparision between Clinton and Nixon. Clinton had perhaps inappropriate but apparently consensual sex with another adult, and then lied about it and possibly engaged in a minor obstruction of its investigation. Nixon used the CIA and IRS against political opponents, and his staff conducted covert operations and burglaries of opposition political parties, and then clearly lied about it and SERIOUSLY obstructed the investigation. It may be, when all of the facts are in, that both prove to be impeachable offenses. In my opinion they are not, however, by ANY stretch of the imagination, comparable.



To: Ibexx who wrote (46359)1/25/1998 2:37:00 AM
From: John Chen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Ibexx/ALL: BUY INTC/txn/amat/mu. Book to 'Bill' ratio sky high since
the Lewinsky's discovery. go semi go.



To: Ibexx who wrote (46359)1/25/1998 2:46:00 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Barry, Ibexx, re: "the question is no longer whether Mr. Clinton had an affair"

JMHO, but the public has decided, based on prosecutor's leaks, and the reports in the press, that Clinton IS GUILTY, even though he has flat out denied it.

I have absolutly no trust in any of the press reports, especially in a situation like this. Sensationalism breeds a rush to report rumors as facts. For whatever reason, the Clinton side hasn't been heard from, I think it's best to wait before making a decision on guilt.

I have a gut feeling that there will be a lot more to this situation than has been revealed at this time. My *guess* is that there has been some serious illegal activity on the part of those who have making the accusations. Just a hunch based on how this is playing out.

At any rate, let's not convict anyone of anything until it is proven, the American way and all that. So far, the only real evidence has been the word of one girl vs. the word of the President.

John

(BTW, I'm a political agnostic, not a donkey or an elephant)