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To: Asymmetric who wrote (429518)	2/8/2020 11:31:26 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 540884

"Those factors will ensure Bernie and his followers will have an even tougher go of it here should he be the nominee." Cue The Revolution, stage left. Opinion Bernie Sanders It's time to complete the revolution we started theguardian.com #WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong

To: Asymmetric who wrote (429518)	2/8/2020 11:33:49 AM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 540884

England has many of the same issues America has, namely, nativist sentiments arguably more firmly implanted than ours and their own perpetually angry uneducated low-brow element. The tide is gradually turning and genetic testing shows that people are far more diverse than they themselves expected - and while this is true for the West, the majority of people in the world are still tribalist and separatists and would not welcome someone much, much different into their clan. The problem is immiscibility due to cultural, racial, religious differences. Education and secularization help, but the reactionaries see this as the root cause of the problem rather than a solution. Hard to fix that because it is a perception and not a fact-based review of the other options.

To: Asymmetric who wrote (429518)	2/23/2020 10:19:00 PM
From: koan	1 Recommendation Recommended By Maple MAGA Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540884

I am aware of that and do not think they are analogous. Bernie is popular! Look at his crowds, votes, popularity polls and money raising ability. And America is ready for a major progressive movement. Bernie is the favorite of both academia and the workers and the people of color and the women and the kids. The polls tell the tale. <,Message #429518 from Asymmetric at 2/8/2020 10:56:13 AM Koan - I think you might want to spend some time mulling over what happened in the Jeremy Corbyn versus Boris Johnson election in our sister nation of England. For me there are many strong parallels that should and absolutely need to be applied to what we think might be the outcome or outcomes in our own elections. My thesis is we are even worse off than the British electorate was, as I believe the Republican corruption of the election process and outcome in the United States will be a major additional factor that would need to be layered on top of what happened in the British elections...and we have the pro-fascist Fox news and right-wing radio that they don't and didn't have. Those factors will ensure Bernie and his followers will have an even tougher go of it here should he be the nominee.