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To: Grainne who wrote (16912)	1/25/1998 2:06:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

But I wonder if the foreign coverage is emphasizing the possibility that Clinton has perjured himself. The point has been made, but not emphasized. Europeans can't understand why a President should be questioned about such things to begin with, and tend to feel sympathy for what they consider an unimportant lie told in circumstances that should never have, ah, arisen. As I noted before, they also rather expect politicians to lie in many circumstances, and so are not surprised or terribly bothered by it. And finally: they never understood Watergate, a far more sinister scandal. There isn't a hope they'll understand this. I think they've got a point.

To: Grainne who wrote (16912)	1/25/1998 2:51:00 PM
From: j g cordes	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Christine, the bottom line for me is that most people (and I include those in high office), distinguish between lies about their private lives and those about their professional lives. Most of us believe that what happens between consenting sexual partners is no business of any state agency or authority, therefore it seems to me clearly an ethical and moral breach of basic human confidentiality for the government to be investigating this at all. All of the fallout of potential perjury stems from this kind of personal investigation. I would guarantee that 99% of all Americans would lie if asked extremely personal questions about their or a family members or close friends sexual habits... even under oath, and especially in casual conversations. For example, if a government offical took testimony on whether or not a womans father ever attempted to have sex with her.. true or not, most decent people would say no out of respect for themselves in a public sense and for public presentations of family loyalty and trust. Its at this level of attack that Starr is trying to get the President and its dishonorable from step one. I don't believe that perjury in a personal adult sexual context is any grounds for government exercise of law unless the actions themselves are criminal between the involved parties. ----- No the evening gown of the lady sitting next to me was sequined (sp), low cut and quite flattering... which made the wine and dinner all the more enjoyable. Long live basic human responses!