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To: Roebear who wrote (2738)1/26/1998 3:15:00 PM
From: Eric Freeman  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4571
 
In answer to your questions: I post because I am interested in any gold situation where potential might exist. I trade gold stocks as I have told you many times. If a stock is in this area and trading on volumes I am interested, which is not to say I am going to buy it. I am just interested. My object is simple - to make money.
How do I do it? Combination of technical, fundamental, and EXPERIENCE.
Re: the focus on BCMD - simple - this thread needs balanced opinion.
Obvious to me that there are many punters here, yet there are probably many readers who lack any experience in the promotion, hype, and games which go on with small cap gold stocks. So I have time once in a while and I make comments. If you do not like that - well - too bad.
Fact is I have been accurate so far - anyone who bought this one since Nov. 21 has probably lost money, unless a very nimble trader.
As for the value of my information?? Is value: length, numbers, insight, accuracy etc.? Actually what I value is someone who addresses the price and shows some know how on outlining the risk, reward. Who knows when to buy, and when to sell(even if at a loss)but hopefully at a profit. So if walking through a mine or talking about "visible gold" is what you think is valuable -good luck. Projections OK, if based on realistic assessment of risk. IE if the gold were there for sure - price of BCMD would be much higher. But admit, this is where the money is -IE buy it before value is reflected. That also is the hook, and bait, which catches so many. Experience or inside information obvious help here.
My buy price: 5/8 was a target price on a pullback, for simplicity will say based on all other factors being equal. The only change I see is that BCMD - appears weak in spite of a rally in golds. If the large amount of gold that some think exists here is in fact real - certainly would expect the price to have moved up. If for no other reason thant the expected leaks, and speculation which would eminate from valuation at higher levels.
Meanwhile - since gold did move, and my positions in other situations were all moving up - decided that if BCMD did move down in that environment, would be foolhardy to pass up all the others which were going up and not down. Or would you prefer to buy the ones going down?
I have been in and out of BGO for my 30 to 40%, and WIM as noted in advance. So as for advice - what can I say Roebear - so far listening to you is pleasant, but would be costing me money. I prefer my route.

Thanks
Eric



To: Roebear who wrote (2738)1/26/1998 3:58:00 PM
From: Charliss  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4571
 
Hi everyone,

I don't post a whole lot here, mainly because I haven't turned up anything new about the company or the stock price, nor have I made any decisions, until recently, except to hold long term.

We have looked at this company and the stock price from many, many perspectives, inside out and upside down, and of course all the perspectives overlap because nothing exists in isolation: the company history, evaluation of management, the financials, filings, investor relations, conference calls and personal calls, press relations, market relations, the joint venture, on site visits by actual investors, attendance at the annual meeting and reporting therefrom, the mining sector, the POG, global and domestic dynamics, the charts and technicals, geologists reports and inferences, every opinion and experience related here as well as in two irc chat rooms.

I bet I have missed some too.

My first point is that we have done an absolutely incredible amount of dedicated and intelligent research and continuous tracking here. Someone should hire us and pay us a lot of money for doing the kind of thing that has been accomplished here. A lot of time has been spent by so many people in their postings of all this information and opinion. Just imagine if any one of these heavy contributors were paid by the hour(even minimum wage)for what they do!

Consider too all the emotional energy that has been expended here on this thread- energy contained in the content of the hopes and dreams that many probably have attached to their investment, and the energy contained in whatever ways that anger, fear, attack, or defensiveness have motivated some of the postings.

So, while the primary investment is money, a whole lot else has been invested too.

My second point is that, given the above, where is the reward, right now? It can only be calculated in terms of the stock price, and thus far, excluding any profits from really restricted and limited trades, the stock price is not rewarding us for the totality of our investment.

But perhaps it will? Maybe, a long time from now. The question I had to put to myself is this: can I get out of this investment, put the money in a place where I can be rewarded with appropriate gains, and in the meantime keep an eye on BCMD and if it appears that it is becoming a better intermediate or long term investment jump back in with the same size entry(or with probably more money at this point because the money taken out earlier has now increased). The answer is yes. Would it make sense to do this? Yes, again.

While my original entry into BCMD was at a near high some months ago, I have accumulated at dips since then. Recently, though, I have sold off 90% of my investment over a brief period of time. I am leaving in 3,000 shares as my toe hold just in case things begin to look different. Even if I wanted back in beyond the 3,000 shares, and if I had to do so at 2, I would still be ahead.

This doesn't really mean anything. It doesn't mean that BCMD is bad in any way, only that my investment doesn't make me any money, it in fact loses money, either because of the stock price declining or simply just languishing.

This has been an unusual experience for me. I really did expect this stock to jump some and validate itself. Normally, I like long term investments to afford me some real trading opportunities in addition to their long term appeal- short term swing opportunities that provide me with the profits I need to live on(eg. intc, csco,wfmi, cpq, synt). I also have other swing trades that are not in addition long term, and several day trades I attend to as well.

My reasons for selling BCMD just reflect my own thinking and my own circumstances. I really can't say anything bad about it. I post this only because I have followed this thread for quite some time now, and because I have experienced community here and feel a part of it. I will continue to follow, and perhaps post some too.

Best,
Charliss