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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (158386)	3/30/2020 4:44:07 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358392

>> China has just over 82. As pointed out (a) we don’t know China's numbers, which are almost assuredly much higher, and (b) China was essentially a city of 12 million. The rest of the country was instntly cut of by military. You would have had a cow if Teump had done that here.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (158386)	3/30/2020 4:59:53 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358392

Numbers out of China are no good. One, they were overwhelmed by the numbers of people showing up at hospitals because China has no primary care system. People go to hospital for everything. Early on, China said it chose to abandon testing because experts could see the numbers of infected were spreading rapidly and exponentially. Instead, China chose to treat symptoms as people presented and ignore whether it was CV, or regular flu, or just viral pneumonia. Second, there's evidence that local authorities may have chosen not to report the full number of deaths from CV out of fear of reprisal from higher officials. Third, the Chinese populace knows from experience that obeying a government order is smart. The whole country, most especially the Hubei province, was ordered to self-quarantine. If they responded well, the virus spread was quickly reduced. Self-distancing was always going to be the single most important things.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (158386)	3/30/2020 5:27:43 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 358392

<< By the time this is over, we'll end up worse than Italy and Spain. >> Of course we will. We are a country of 350 million. Italy and Spain together are less than 1/3 of that at 106 million. I also assume the West will produce more fatalities than will the East and Southeast combined and adjusted for population differences. The final numbers, however, will be impacted by changes in behavior and finding treatments. It's great that Trump has relaxed the rules for using certain drug cocktails for off label purposes. Ha! I just listened to CNBC comparing the US to Italy. You'd think the people on that show would know how to use math properly.