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To: THE ANT who wrote (155824)4/2/2020 11:34:15 PM
From: Dr. Voodoo2 Recommendations

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Secret_Agent_Man
sense

  Respond to of 218871
 
Hi Ant,

Hard to say-- Azithromycin has been studied in COPD patients as an antiinflammatory. it does a lot of stuff. It's also known to interfere with transcription/translation etc. Too early too late in a pandemic when stuff is in short supply, first do no arm and 80% get better with nothing,,, its kind of a crapshoot IMO.

I think they at least need to be symptomatic and probably should be given at first sign of breathing or lung obstruction, but I'm not sure when it's actually being given.

FYI in my little corner of BKK they are already out of Pfizer brand

Another poster asked me about quinolones.
Here are a couple papers/reviews:

ijidonline.com

aafp.org



To: THE ANT who wrote (155824)4/3/2020 12:11:37 AM
From: carranza21 Recommendation

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marcher

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Industrial tonic water does not have much quinine in it. To deal with malaria, you’d have to drink at least five liters of that nasty stuff, and probably more, just to get to 500 mg. per day. That’s because the FDA limits quinine content in tonic water to 83 mg. per liter and a minimum of 500 mg a day is considered a low-ish standard dose for treating malaria.

en.wikipedia.org

Who knows what the curative dose for the virus might be.

I make a cold-infusion tea from cinchona bark. It is not particularly bitter. Drink it three times a day. Have no idea how much quinine I’m getting, but I’m certain it’s more than I’d get from drinking an equivalent amount of industrial tonic water.

The issue has a long and complex history as regards malaria.

jameslindlibrary.org



To: THE ANT who wrote (155824)4/3/2020 3:04:13 AM
From: sense  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 218871
 
As a physician I could not give someone Lithium as no subgroup in the medical field gives it for viral treatment and it would be experimental.


It's available over the counter as orotate 120mg 200 tabs for $18... a dietary supplement... and my guess it is well within your purview to provide general nutritional advice ?


I've not seen the suggestion from anyone other than you that it might be useful ? Where does that come from ?




Mechanism... just a soluble mineral that is the right size to function as a site blocker ? Same as with magnesium... zinc... etc ? Or is there a more chemical rather than physico-chemical explanation ?



To: THE ANT who wrote (155824)4/4/2020 3:19:48 AM
From: sense1 Recommendation

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marcher

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I understand that juniper extracts are also potent antibiotics...

If only we could find a way to combine juniper extracts AND quinine water... ?

Recruiting people for a self medicated trial would probably not be that hard ?

But, how many gin and tonics do you actually have to drink to provide adequate prophylaxis ?

How do you design the study ?

Now, we have to convince people... that drinking alone is really good for you ?