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To: carranza2 who wrote (156274)4/10/2020 1:35:38 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217570
 
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To: carranza2 who wrote (156274)4/10/2020 1:56:25 AM
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update from sir Martin

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BlogThe US Share Market for Close April 9th



While everyone is cheering the assumption that this is all over, the market merely bounced back to the first level of technical resistance. This is far from over. There will be a flood of business failures. France is expecting a massive wave of bankruptcies. The damage to the economy is far greater than anything we have ever witnessed in history since 1792 in the shortest amount of time. We have not gotten through and important resistance.

Trump is trying to wage war against these people who are deliberately trying to destroy the economy for political purposes. There are 28.8 million small businesses in the United States, according to the U.S. Small Business Administration, and they have 56.8 million employees. Small businesses (defined as businesses with fewer than 500 employees) account for 99.7% of all business in the U.S. Especially when you look at small business statistics on a state-by-state level, you can see that communities across the nation rely on small businesses for jobs, goods, services, and general economic well-being. Nevertheless, the Democrats have blocked relief for small businesses pretending the money should go to a worker, but if the businesses fail, they lose their job. They do not understand what is vital in the crisis. They constantly think handing people a couple week's wages will make them fall to the knees and kiss the ground the Democrats walk on. This is just beyond all reasonable common sense.

As we move forward, this is still in a critical stage. Anthony Fauci is a major threat to our civilization. He wants to keep us all locked down until we are vaccinated. His latest proposal is that Americans must undergo “serological test” which is immunity-screening before you would be allowed back to work. Fauci is compromised. Bill Gates has been funding the CDC, NIH, and he is the largest private donor to the WHO. All three have been compromised by Gates. As long as these health organizations are allowed to take private funding, they will do as Gates instructs. Everything he has been insisting on is taking place now. This is a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY, but the press will not defend society nor expose what is taking place.

The sheer magnitude if economic destruction will not begin to surface until May. The bankruptcy filings will soar in April. So do not be so quick to assume this will all return to normal. There are major forces coming into play which are by no means going to allow this to return to normal. There will be no going back. The damage that has already been inflicted will guarantee the economy will decline into 2022. We are headed into STAGFLATION.




To: carranza2 who wrote (156274)4/10/2020 2:30:50 AM
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continuing dialogue from here Message 32666465

comment, the gold shares beaten down may just zoom to the levels of the the gold shares that hardly budged

but in order for such to be sustainable, seems to me gold must rise. do not see gold rising as there are so many competing uses for cash

let's see, maybe 'at the margin' works

On 10 Apr 2020, at 8:09 AM, H wrote:

Some individual stocks have already broken out to new highs, among them NEM. I take that as a good omen, since NEM is the only gold stock in the SPX and the one generalist investors tend to buy first.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:11 PM S wrote:

Thanks for that HB. A pretty strong statement was made today supporting that analysis. There is a lot of room for HUI to catch up to gold, a of room.

------- Original Message -------

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:49 PM, H wrote:

Before I go to bed, I wanted to briefly elaborate on that remark. For some reason, the 50/200 dma's are really quite important demarcations for the gold sector. I attach a few charts from previous rallies off lows below the 200 dma which illustrate the point. The long and the short of it is: it is not easy to get through, but once they do get through, it is usually quite meaningful. 1998 was an attempt that failed, the others eventually succeeded. I have not included 2016, but it also showed that getting through these moving averages from below tends to be a very strong bullish signal.



To: carranza2 who wrote (156274)4/10/2020 9:54:43 PM
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I think you'd have to be brain dead... or on the payroll... to not recognize that the markets ARE manipulated.

Of course they are...

The Fed's only PURPOSE is to manipulate the financial markets ? It's their job ? They change interest rates randomly... to manipulate the markets based on that ? They conjure money out of thin air, and give it only to their best friends... in order to buy others cooperation in manipulating the markets in other ways ?

They profit from it... and pretend its a governmental function being done in the public interest ? And they lie about what they are doing... and about the impacts it will have... in order to induce others into acting particular ways... for reasons of their own ?

Or, is it not true that they're even reduced now to being active direct participants in the market... even buying stocks, and junk bond ETFs directly as market participants ?

Hello ?

Watch OPEC dithering over oil ? They're not very good at it... beyond the element in staging the theatrical... but imposing a monopoly controlling supply... to enable coordinated price setting... is nothing but market manipulation ?

That monopoly function in oil... is no different than the monopoly function imposed in money ? And a key requirement in preserving the monopoly... and the power and control that come with it... is forestalling competition in substitution for your product ?

If you don't understand that... you'll never understand how markets work... and why they don't, when they don't work as we expect ?

The rest of his... is NOT objective truth... just an opposing and obviously partisan input.

Worse, none of his arguments, as presented, are based in any real information that matters. He's presented nothing more than ad hominem... nothing more meaningful other than name calling ? He's cast aspersions on others character... but has only dissembled in addressing the core issues.

Reality in the financial markets... is that a criminal conviction is nearly impossible to get... no matter how criminal your conduct. How many bankers are in jail for the mortgage frauds exposed in 2008 ?

If you are actually charged... it mostly means you're not enough of a team player... or play for the wrong team... but otherwise it isn't much of an indictment in terms of relative quality in character.

The most dangerous ones... haven't been drummed out of the business... for not being a team player.

The rest of his argument... was itself a fraud.

Is leverage a problem... or is it benign ? Sure, you can have that debate... but it isn't the point, rather than a deflection ?

That should be clear enough, today... because all the leverage in the world... isn't making silver and gold actually appear in a form that's available for delivery... when delivery is required ? Position limits are a thinly veiled fiction...

The market is not wrong... in pricing physical differently from the "derivative" that can't be delivered ?

If as the COMEX says... the gold and silver are there in the warehouse ready to be delivered.... why would they ever need to borrow 400 oz bars from the U.K. just to be able to pretend they're the same thing ?

If they empty the warehouse by delivering what they have... because the demand is there for it being delivered... then, what are those contracts left being traded actually being traded FOR... when the warehouse is empty ?

The fraud inherent in his argument... lies in his implicitly claiming that the leverage used... doesn't result in divorcing price setting functions from the actual physical trade in the commodity underlying the contract.

That is what occurs... and leverage clearly is a part of that... but it isn't an issue in the use made of the leverage in practicing the pricing fraud ? It is not the leverage itself, that is the source of a problem ? The problem isn't the leverage on a bet... that is settled based on others determination of the price ? The problem is the substitution of the bet, itself, as if its existence were creating a new source of supply... that fraud then using the wholly fictional expanded supply thus created... to change the price with surplus supply by the influence from leverage that is not limited to settling the financial risk... but is employed in artificially inflating "supply" AS A PART of the price setting function... faking the supply... to fictionalize the price... before the bet is settled.

The trade, as conducted now, clearly is a fraud.

In silver it is VERY clear... that the "price" is being deliberately set... controlled... by the trade in paper... not by the trade in real, physical, settled in physical... making the entire market not a fiction... but a fraud.

Given that as fact, ignoring the how and why it happened... [ if the market supply IS a fiction and in result the market is a fraud... that requires that the price is a fraud... ?],

Then:

What is it, exactly, that is driving the changes and setting the prices... if it is not free market functions based in the actual supply and market demand for the physical ?

Before answering yourself... ask that same question about the pricing in oil, today... ?

Money and oil are not different... because both are purposeful monopolies... managed by cartels.

He's lying to you when he's telling you that's not true about money.