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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1220007)	4/13/2020 3:22:27 PM
From: FJB	2 Recommendations Recommended By Bonefish Maple MAGA Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1588366

There are over a dozen of these studies now. You should start googling them rather than speaking out of ignorance. Here is just one. ----------------------- REPORT: 30%-50% Of Patients In Chicago Tested For COVID-19 Already Have Antibodies In System “A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus,” Chicago City Wire reported on Thursday. AND ANOTHER: ------------------------- thelocal.dk Denmark's infectious diseases agency SSI has estimated that the true number of people who have had coronavirus is between 30 and 80 times larger than the roughly 5,000 who have so far tested positive. This means that as many as 400,000 people in the country could have already been infected with the virus. The shock figure, which draws on analysis of blood donors in the country, was included in a status report published on Tuesday by the Danish Health Authority. "There is a lot of contagion in Danish society, and there is a huge dark figure," Kåre Mølbak, the agency's head, told the Berlingske newspaper. "In the blood donor studies that have been done, you can see that maybe 70 times more people have had the infection than we can see in the statistics." A study of 1,000 blood donations given between April 1 and April 3 found that 3.5 percent had been infected with the virus, which would indicate that 65,000 people had probably already been infected by March 26. SSI's estimate also drew on studies made in Germany and Iceland.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1220007)	4/13/2020 3:37:05 PM
From: RetiredNow	2 Recommendations Recommended By Bonefish FJB Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1588366

Oh, don't get me wrong. I couldn't agree with you more. That post was to show people the silliness of coming to conclusion on mortality rates before we do the proper randomized testing of the population in the proper sample sizes and with a stratification that allows for extrapolation to the population. Right now, the data is still muddied. What I'd like to see is not just more testing for COVID negative or positive. That's still a selectively biased sample of people who have the symptoms of cough, shortness of breath, and chest pains. This is not a properly randomized sample, so it cannot be extrapolated. We need COVID testing in randomized samples. We also need antigen/antibody testing in random samples. The first bit will tell us who has it now and who does not have it now. The second test will tell us did they have it at some time in the past. This is very important. We may already have millions who had mild or no symptoms and are already immune. Or they may still have it and be carriers. We don't know, because we're aren't doing randomized sampling in a scientific way. So when people tell me we have a 3.8% mortality rate, I have to call bullshit. This is just speculative, and yet, we've shut the economy down and put millions of people out of work and destroyed their lives on speculation! This is the height of irresponsibility. The Democrats say Trump acted to slowly, and yet, Trump acted sooner than anyone else to cut off flights from China and Europe, even when the Democrats called him racist and xenophobic. He made the hard decisions. But then he kowtowed to the so-called medical experts and shut down the economy based on their armageddon speculations, not based on hard science. This is going to have massive consequences, including the deaths of millions from poverty related ailments in the decade to come. In a free, Democratic country, we should not be implementing the solutions that come from Communist Dictatorships like China. We should have charted our own path that is far more nuanced and respecting of people's right to live their lives the way they choose.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1220007)	4/13/2020 3:42:40 PM
From: puborectalis	2 Recommendations Recommended By pocotrader rdkflorida2 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1588366

In a surprise announcement, Sen. Bernie Sanders endorsed his rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, for the Democratic party's nomination during a livestream about the U.S. economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic. Sanders endorsed Biden just five days after the senator dropped out of the race, while in 2016 it took over a month for Sanders to endorse Hillary Clinton.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1220007)	4/13/2020 3:43:54 PM
From: puborectalis	2 Recommendations Recommended By pocotrader rdkflorida2 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1588366

Centers for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield said Monday morning that he recommended more states issue lockdown orders as early as February 'As February 28 – as we got into March – we recognized the different areas that mitigation was now important,' Redfield told Today 'CDC sent recommendations to Washington, to California, to New York and to Florida recommending that they expand mitigation in those areas,' he continued The White House issued social distancing guidelines about three weeks after the recommendations from Redfield and immunologist Anthony FauciFauci said Sunday morning that if lockdowns and social distancing guidelines were implemented by the president sooner, more lives could have been saved This prompted Trump to retweet a post calling for Fauci's ouster from the White House coronavirus task force