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To: arun gera who wrote (157183)4/27/2020 1:04:24 AM
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Pogeu Mahone

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How come several studies show immigrants are healthier compared to US born?

Off the top of my head, a couple of obvious reasons:

First, because those studies are based on the assumption of CONTROLLED immigration... even while being used in advocating for the opposite ?

Any selection process... applied to any group... is going to result in... selection ? And that's even true of a process driven by self selection... when there are known limits and boundaries ? And, its directly true also of physical boundaries... that they impose a physical selection process ? Even perhaps as entertainingly seen here demonstrated in the opposite sense:


Monty Python Olympics

or
Upper Class Twit of the Year

However, as you alter the intrinsic assumptions... you alter the validity of any prior observation ? America's history of successful immigration and assimilation... didn't emerge from a borderless, unfocused and uncontrolled process of self selection ? If you want repeatable results... stick with what is proven to work... and maybe not risk our health, and our country's future... on crackpot schemes undertaken for reasons that are almost entirely based in an ideological agenda driven by a lack of good faith ?

Second, because... emigrants tend to be a slice of a demographic... not representative of an entire
population.

Normalize for age alone and most of the disparity will evaporate. The least healthy... tend not to be those undertaking arduous journeys seeking new opportunities ? I have no idea what the percentage in any population might be of people who are blind quadriplegics... A safe guess though, that they're under-represented in immigration statistics ?

Third, ignoring Europe's problems... note one study in one place... is not necessarily relevant at all to another place ? Most new immigrants to America are used to eating a lot of beans, and other rough whole foods... not as much processed food. Most Americans eat at McDonalds quite often... But, heart disease and obstructed arteries from eating too much fast food... won't give you typhus ? Not all health issues... are equally unhealthy... from an immigration/public health perspective. Eating at McDonalds might not be good for you... but for the most part it won't give you lice, or TB... ?

Fourth... don't ignore the bias or the agenda of those publishing studies purporting to prove things they likely cannot ? What's the bias of the organizations behind those studies ? What's the interest driving the bias ? How is the bias controlled for... or is not controlling the bias the point of publishing the study ?

















To: arun gera who wrote (157183)4/27/2020 8:17:20 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Respond to of 218255
 
Immigrants have better health until they live here for as little as 2 years

than obesity takes over coupled with all of the disadvantages that entails.

Becoming American - Unnatural Causes
unnaturalcauses.org › uploads › file › UC_Transcript_3

PDF

NARRATOR: But the good health many immigrants arrive with comes with an expiration date. ... years with the Mexican population: Boy, where were they getting these ... Page 2. ITON: One of the things that the data told us, in our health department, ... just like the American people as a population, because they live here.