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To: RetiredNow who wrote (1229391)5/12/2020 4:14:12 PM
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RetiredNow

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I couldn't have put it better myself !!!

There's only ONE REASON why the TDS Demented Democrats and their Leftist Sycophantic followers are Screeching for extensions of Lock downs .... and it has got NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR "ALTRUISM" or THEIR CONCERN FOR THE GENERAL AMERICAN POPULATION.

The "Upper Echelons" of the Democratic Party and the DNC, such as Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler, Schiff, etc, Don't Give a F*ck for Americans. They just want THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS THAT A LOCK DOWN HAS ON THE ECONOMY TO CONTINUE, AND TO EVEN EXPAND FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, because a Thriving Economy is good for the Voters and INCREASES THE POPULARITY OF THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT .... and that's the last thing that they want for Donald Trump.

What Donald Trump had achieved over the last 3 years has not been done, to any reasonably equal extent, by ANY PRESIDENT SINCE RONALD REAGAN, AND MOST CERTAINLY NOT BY ANY DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT.
Two of the MAIN COMPONENTS OF THE ECONOMIC STRATEGY that they both adopted were, (a) Cut taxes, (b) Reduce Regulations.

And if ANY LEFTIST MENTIONS Bill Clinton, I strongly suggest that they listen to what Professor Milton Friedman has had to say on that guy and how he "fooled" the public and how he used Social Security Funds to "Create a "SURPLUS(?)" "

When it came to Economics and how a country should manage its Finances, you couldn't pull the wool over Milton Friedman's eyes !!

Leftists and Democrats like to point out that Bill Clinton "Left a Surplus" when he left the White House. BUT, like much that Bill Clinton "achieved(?)", it had a lot to do with "SMOKE AND MIRRORS" !!

........ Leftists tend to swallow anything that their "Shyster" Presidents tell them without actually looking into what they are told and researching it ........




To: RetiredNow who wrote (1229391)5/12/2020 5:01:36 PM
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Why won't Trump and Pence adopt masks and social distancing even in the White House? They keep infecting their own people.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (1229391)5/12/2020 5:15:47 PM
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'I would do anything for a do-over': Calgary church hopes others learn from their tragic COVID-19 experience

Chris EppSenior Reporter / Anchor Weekend News at 6 & 11:30

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Published Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:12PM MDTLast Updated Monday, May 11, 2020 8:06AM MDT

Church congregation speaks after COVID-19 outbreak

Members of a Calgary church are speaking out after an outbreak of COVID-19 traced back to a church event killed two of its members.

CALGARY -- Members of a Calgary church ravaged by COVID-19 in the early days of the pandemic are sharing their stories of grief and healing, after Alberta's chief medical health officer cited them as a cautionary tale.

"I had the opportunity recently to talk to a faith leader whose faith community gathered together in mid-March before many of our public health measures were in place,” Dr Deena Hinshaw said Thursday. "The congregation had a worship service and then gathered together for a celebratory social event. There were only 41 people present, and they were careful to observe two meter distancing and good hand hygiene. They followed all the rules and did nothing wrong. "

Despite that, 24 of the 41 people at the party ended up infected. Two of them died.

Rev. Shannon Mang is the minister of Living Spirit United Church.

"One of our most beloved members was having a very important birthday and we wanted to celebrate that," Mang said of the post-service celebration. "Under the circumstances, we thought we were going to be safe. We were very diligent about physical distancing, very diligent about hand hygiene.”

Though the church has capacity for 200 people, fewer than 50 were at the event - well within the public health rules of the time.

Food was served but everyone handling it wore gloves.

"We were very careful and then a week later, we learned of the first person who was diagnosed with COVID-19," explained Mang. "A few days later we had the second, and the third and within a week there were about 14. Within two weeks, there were 24 of the 41 people who had been there that day.

"The overwhelming emotion was shock."

Shannon Morey attends the church with her mom and dad and all three were at the party that day. She never got sick, but both of her parents did.

"My mom thought she had a sinus infection, then a day later my dad thought he had a cold."

Her father Dennis was admitted to the hospital on April 3 and the ICU two days later. Three weeks after that, he died.

He was 81 but, according to his family, still very active.

"He was out shoveling the walk just days before he got sick and looking forward to planting his garden," said Shannon.

Other church members organized a vigil in his memory with more than 100 people dropping off candles outside his house, one at a time.

The church also held online wakes for members who died, allowing the community to grieve virtually.

"That was so important because COVID-19 interrupts our traditions," said Mang. "The food at the house, being able to stay and visit and to cry together and tell stories together and laugh and show pictures.

"All that stuff that we want to do, we can't do. So having an online wake helped."

Mang also says she struggles with her decision to proceed with the party.

"It's really tough. Me personally I've had to keep working through this," she said. "We were working with the information that we had at the time, but I would do anything for a do-over. It's very very hard to live with this reality."

Mang says the church has been devastated by the aftermath of the infection spreading among members and she wants others to learn from their experience.

"We don't want another organization or faith community to go through what we've been through," said Mang. "It's really, really hard. There seems to be this huge divide between those who've experienced (COVID-19) and the majority who haven't.

"If you haven't experienced it, you are so lucky. You have no idea how fortunate you are."

Even as public health restrictions start to loosen, Mang is encouraging people not to rush.

"Think about the oldest person that you hang out with and visit and take care of. Are you willing to give them up?"

It still isn't clear how the virus entered the church in the first place since none of the infected had travelled or knowingly encountered an infected person in the days before their last gathering together.

It's suspected the virus may have breached the church a day earlier when a large choir was using the facility.

Health officials say they likely will never know how it was transmitted there - and that's fine with Shannon Morey.

"I don’t want to know, " said Morey. "When bad things happen people want to be angry and direct anger at something but if I were that person who brought it in, I would feel terrible."

Meanwhile, Reverend Mang says she doesn't know when her congregation will meet inside their church again.

"We are not going back to what we were because we never will be what we were. We lost two really important members. We lost something but hope this experience will help us grow into something new - I hope a new more loving and caring community."

calgary.ctvnews.ca



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Donald Trump Shoots 100,000 People on Fifth Avenue
And his people don't care.

by ROBERT TRACINSKI

MAY 12, 2020 5:28 AM

No, Donald Trump didn’t literally shoot anybody, nor did he do it on Fifth Avenue. But soon more than 100,000 Americans will be dead from COVID-19, and making good on his boast that he could get away with murder in broad daylight, and his supporters are working their way toward accepting and excusing this disastrous outcome.

Trump understood his supporters earlier than anyone else. It was January 2016 when he proclaimed, “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters.”


He was right. There has proven to be nothing his core supporters won’t excuse to keep from having to admit that they were wrong.

At this point, that means stubbornly, and even insistently, welcoming mass death.

A recent video cobbled together from clips from Trump’s press conferences highlights how the president has gone from dismissing the tiny number of COVID-19 cases and claiming it would all go away in a few weeks, to acknowledging higher and higher death tolls, to boasting that it will be a big success if only 90,000 people die, and more recently just admitting that there will be at least 100,000 deaths—which at the current rate is a lower bound. That’s more than any other nation in the world, probably including China, even if you assume that their official numbers are dramatically undercounted.

The point of the video is not merely that Trump is in denial. We know by now that he says whatever he thinks will make him look good at and for that moment. He lives in an eternal present where what he says today does not have to be consistent with what he said yesterday and bears no relation to what he will say tomorrow.

But the deeper and more ominous point is that Trump has gradually acclimatized himself and his supporters to the fact that a lot of people are going to die and that they are not taking even the basic steps necessary to prevent it.

This has been the pattern all along, the method by which Trump gets his supporters to accept his proverbial Fifth Avenue shootings:

First insist it’s not real, that he didn’t do it, that it’s all a hoax.Then admit it’s real but it’s being overblown and taken out of context by the media.Then defiantly proclaim that sure, of course he did it. It’s normal, it’s perfect, it’s what everybody does, so why are you making such a big deal out of it?All of this was previewed, in detail, by last year’s impeachment trial, from the assurance that there was no quid pro quo with Ukraine to the insistence that of course there was a quid pro quo, and that’s just fine.

Except this time it’s about a lot of people dying, and dying unnecessarily.

That the administration was caught flat-footed by this pandemic is not its real sin. Most countries flailed early on. The only large country to do well right out of the starting gate was South Korea—but that was because they flubbed their response to a previous outbreak of MERS and learned the lessons from it. Yet we now have about a half dozen examples of COVID-19 success stories, countries that have contained the virus and limited its spread, making it possible for them to avoid both massive death tolls and draconian, open-ended economic shutdowns.

There’s South Korea, New Zealand, Australia, Hong Kong, Iceland, Germany, and a few others, depending on how you count. These results are not surprising. The standard practice for controlling infectious diseases is well established: massive testing to support a system of contract tracing. This allows a country to identify and isolate those who are infectious, making it possible for everybody else to go back to relatively normal lives.

Consider the big recent coronavirus news out of South Korea: 13 new cases identified when a 29-year-old man noticed symptoms and tested positive after an evening going to nightclubs.

There are three things to note about this story.

First, people were going out to nightclubs, which had recently been reopened. They may be shut down again for a while after this, but schools and baseball leagues are opening up. South Korea was never shut down as tightly at the US and will soon be much more open.

Second, there is enough testing to spot a potential “super-spreader” right away.

Third, South Korea has a system of contact tracing so thorough—visitors to nightclubs, for example, are required to give their names as they enter—that everyone who was potentially exposed will soon be located and tested as well.

This could have been us. It could still be us, if the Trump administration would put forward a concerted effort to implement this model. It has not done so, leaving it to be implemented piecemeal by the states. Michael Brendan Dougherty aptly describes the administration’s promised response to COVID-19 as “vaporware”:

We’ve gotten lots of advertising and an implicit promise of a world-class operation to fight the disease. But it doesn’t exist yet and it’s becoming clearer that the White House is spinning its wheels, looking for something—anything—to do other than solving the crisis at hand.

Trump’s supporters have sensed that he has given up doing anything about coronavirus, and they have decided to excuse that, too.

This explains some of the excitement over the Swedish model for dealing with the pandemic, which involves less stringent lockdowns and less social distancing. But there really is no “Swedish model,” not as a strategy for containing the virus or reducing its death toll. Swedes are not social distancing enough to slow the spread of the virus, they’re not working toward test-and-trace, and they deny that they are trying to achieve herd immunity. They have no strategy except to grit their teeth and endure whatever happens.

The real Swedish model is simply to decide that they are willing to accept a large number of deaths. Given that this is now President Trump’s strategy, you can see why conservatives are rushing to embrace it.

None of this is necessary. Yes, a test-and-trace system would be very difficult to implement, particularly this late in the pandemic. It would require a vast effort. But it will never happen if we don’t even try—and gosh darn it, this is America. We have never accepted that we are less capable than other countries of doing difficult things. If we accept it in this case, it will be because the president decided not to bother doing the work.

As the death tallies rise and tick into six figures, it is important to remember that this was a choice, even if it was made by default. The president didn’t shoot those 100,000 people, but he embraced their deaths through his indifference and neglect.

It was all done in broad daylight, and his supporters are now ratifying that decision.

thebulwark.com