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To: Bill who wrote (1230909)5/18/2020 12:42:54 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 1574010
 
Rat voted by mail when he had a Republican governor. In entirely unrelated news,

The future of solar power: From unbelievably cheap to insanely cheap



Giles Parkinson & Sophie Vorrath 18 May 2020 0 Comments

Clean technology advocate and futurist Ramez Naam admits he was wrong about the price of solar. His forecasts in 2011 were among the most optimistic in the world, but he turned out to be wrong by at least a factor of two.

Solar is now half the price he predicted nearly a decade ago, and already at a price that established institutions like the International Energy Agency thought wouldn’t be possible for a century to come. That’s how dramatic the cost of the technology has fallen. And it’s going to get cheaper.

“Solar has plunged in price faster than anyone – including me – predicted. And modeling of that price decline leads me to forecast that solar will continue to drop in price faster than I’ve previously expected, and will ultimately reach prices lower than virtually anyone expects. Prices that are, by any stretch of the measure, insanely, world-changingly cheap.”



We saw this in action last month, when Abu Dhabi Power Corporation’s 2GW Al Dhafra project attracted record low bids of 1.35 cents in US currency, roughly $A0.02/kWh, or $A20/MWh, from a consortium including French energy giant EDF and Chinese solar company JinkoPower.

That bid promises to deliver a levelised cost of solar energy at almost half the once record-breaking price achieved three years ago for the mammoth 1.17 GW Noor Abu Dhabi solar park, which started sending power to the grid mid-way through last year.

As Naam explains in this must-read blog post, solar has got to this point largely through sheer scale of global deployment.

He uses data from seven different sources spanning global, US, Chinese, and Indian trends, to paint “an incredible picture” that shows the price of solar electricity from utility-scale systems dropping by anywhere between 30-40% with each doubling of cumulative solar deployment.



“This is a stunning pace of decline. It’s far higher than the bulk of academic studies and industry projections, which typically fall into the 10-20% learning per doubling range,” Naam says. “And it’s more than twice the 16% learning rate I found in my 2015 analysis.”

But perhaps even more incredible is that this learning curve is by no means done. The world is headed from insanely cheap solar, to ultra-cheap solar.

Naam says the world is currently entering what he calls “the third phase of clean energy,” where building new solar and wind power is cheaper, eve, than keeping existing fossil fuel plants running.



And cheap solar will be a major part of this.

“With average prices in sunny parts of the world down to a penny or two by 2030 or 2035 …building new solar would routinely be cheaper than operating already built fossil fuel plants, even in the world of ultra-cheap natural gas we live in now,” Naam writes.

He comes to this conclusion using what he describes as a “cautious” learning rate of 30 per cent. As illustrated in the chart below, just two more doublings of scale, to 2,400GW of solar producing roughly 8% of global electricity demand, would see solar costs cut in half from today’s levels.



“In the sunny parts of the world with low costs of capital, labor, and land, we could routinely be seeing unsubsidized solar in the 1-2 cent (US$) range. In California (typical of the green line) we could be seeing unsubsidised solar at 2.5 cents per kwh. In northern Europe, we could be seeing utility scale solar routinely priced at 4-5 US cents per kwh,” he writes.

Naam notes that to the far right of the graph, solar deployment hits 19 Terawatts. “This may seem like an absurd, pathological amount of solar, enough to provide 2/3 of the world’s current electricity production,” he says, but when you consider the changing shape of electricity demand and supply, it’s not so implausible.

Naam argues that this sort of terrawatt-scale demand for cheap and abundant solar power will come from a richer world; a world that has shifted to electric transport; grids dominated by flexible demand; the arrival of cheap energy storage, and finally; industrial decarbonisation.

“Add these up, and it’s plausible that solar’s contribution to the energy system could double or triple the amount currently considered feasible for solar to provide,” he says.

But while solar might give the appearance of a self-powered juggernaut on a set course to solve the world’s energy problems, it is not. As Naam himself stresses, “projections are only projections” and we shouldn’t “blindly assume” that they will come to pass. As usual, policy will be key. And as usual, that is a concern for Australia.

“There will be real obstacles – technical, economic, social, regulatory, and political – that will all need to be overcome to bring this to bear,” Naam says.

“And there may well be a physical floor price that solar reaches as prices drop too close to the cost of land and other resources that are resistant to cost decline.”

Other technologies – in particular various forms of energy storage – will also have to keep up the pace. And, to be sure, when Naam published a Twitter version of his thoughts it sparked an interesting reaction from others pointing out the need for storage, or advanced demand management. But the costs of those are coming down too.

Even so, says Naam, “the incredible pace of solar provides us an incredible tool for decarbonising our electrical grid, while ultimately lowering costs for consumers, businesses, and industries.

“And for now, have hope. Technology innovation – initially kicked off by farsighted policy – is giving us better and better tools to decarbonise society, while reducing the cost of energy, and increasing global prosperity.”

Someone should tell the Australian government.

reneweconomy.com.au



To: Bill who wrote (1230909)5/18/2020 1:29:12 PM
From: Jamie153  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574010
 
I don't think republicans trust republicans but they trust us less because they listen to talk shows and think opinion is fact.

But that's beside the point. Democrats have a long history of being honest. We can't name one republican in modern history who isn't a habitual liar. Look at Repeal and Replace? A billion lies? Who trusts these people? Idiots.



To: Bill who wrote (1230909)5/18/2020 2:18:15 PM
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The corruption at the CIA and FBI is past the point of no return
DrJohn

floppingaces.net

By Sun, May, 17th, 2020

This morning Joe Concha tweeted out an article by Mike Morell, a former Deputy Director of the CIA from 2010-2013. Morell said, in essence, “the only culprit in the Flynn ‘unmasking’ scandal is the Trump administration.”

I’ve never liked Morell. I always found him slimy and less than honest. Others have as well. During the Benghazi episode Morell was thought to be “lacking candor” to coin a phrase. Here is one take:

After former acting CIA Director Mike Morell testified to the House Intelligence Committee that he is the one who changed the Benghazi talking points, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) renewed her call for a select committee to investigate the attack. She suggested that Morell either lied to senators shortly after the attack, or lied during his testimony today.

Steve Hayes:

Very specific language presumably based on intelligence we’ve gathered. And he kind of shrugged it off when you asked him about it. Well you can’t shrug it off. Don’t we deserve something better in this country than to have intelligence professionals who mislead as a matter of course. Who did it at the time, did it in their book, do it in interviews. Shouldn’t we expect that our intelligence professionals tell the truth and be straight with the American people?

Morell also was quicker than lightning to subsequently seize a seat on talk shows and stake out the democrat position.

It was Morell’s logorrhea that pushed me over the edge with regard to our Intelligence communities.

So to repeat Steve Hayes’ question-

Shouldn’t we expect that our intelligence professionals tell the truth and be straight with the American people?

We should, but we can’t. They’re all corrupt. All of them. The CIA and the FBI are horrendous. It seems to me that the more dishonest you are the higher up in the organization you go.

James Clapper is a documented liar. He said “there could be evidence” of Trump-Russia collusion despite having testified at the same time that he never saw any such evidence.

Andrew McCabe got fired because his dishonesty. He said “I think it’s possible” that Trump is a Russian agent without the slightest bit of evidence.

John Brennan is a documented liar. Brennan used his position to spy on the Senate.

James Comey is a galactic liar. who admitted he “took advantage” of the early Trump White House confusion to “send a couple of guys” over to frame Michael Flynn in violation of FBI protocols. He would speculate that there could be a “pee tape” again without a shred of proof it ever existed.

These are the heads of intelligence services. They are the leaders. What the f**k is wrong with them that they can so easily lie to the country? What the hell kind of criteria are used to promote this kind of monster? Aren’t they supposed to be above politics? They knew the truth but kept on spewing disinformation in the hopes of destroying a Presidency.

They have collectively ruined the intelligence community. You come to realize that the FBI and CIA are not there to solve crimes, but to create them and punish innocent people who complicate their goals or might otherwise expose them. They banded together to prevent the election of Donald Trump and then sought to overthrow him once he was elected.

I don’t have much faith that these vermin will suffer the fate they so richly deserve- imprisonment. Frankly, IMO their actions border on treason and hanging wouldn’t be out of the question. That’s highly unlikely given the corruption in the agencies which would be investigating them. Both the FBI and CIA should be shut down permanently. They do more harm than good.

There is also no doubt all of their evildoing came with the express approval of the then dirtbag in chief- barack obama. The damage obama has done to this country is incalculable.

Again

Shouldn’t we expect that our intelligence professionals tell the truth and be straight with the American people?

Yes, but it isn’t going to happen. Ever. They are mendacious and incorrigible. They have poisoned the IC to the point where it cannot be trusted to do anything other than wrongly destroy reputations and entrap the innocent. I had hopes for Christopher Wray but he has proved himself to be another swamp creature.

The CIA and the FBI must be dismantled and we need to start anew with something of more transparency and integrity.