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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (164832)

5/20/2020 1:03:22 PM

From: i-node

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However far I have watched you go down the rabbit hole, I never imagined it could take you to a place where you'd believe that doctors would deny care that they believed would help a patient in a life-threatening situation just because Trump fancied it. That is way beyond upside down and backwards.

"They believed" is your phrase, not mine. I think they are guilty of not giving HCQ/Zinc a chance. A lot of that is on the federal bureaucracy which shut down HCQ without cause and it was stupid. I do not believe it is tantamount to murder, although I do feel it warrants the use of hyperbole because it was fucking stupid.

When you have a pandemic and you have no therapeutic, at all, and someone says, "Hey, I've had luck with this entirely safe protocol," (which happened), then you try it. Not a clinical trial, you give some patients an opportunity to take early. Because we knew from the outset that Zil. was having success preventing mildly symptomatic patients from being hospitalized, a critical endpoint.

My complaint is that doctors in NYC were refusing to try what was obviously showing signs of success when they had nothing else. You don't precondition it on a clinical trial's outcome if the patient is dying and you have reason to believe you have a way of improving his condition (keep in mind reports were than when given early in the process signs of reduction of viral load were showing up within a few hours).

A huge hospital system like NYC's could have had one doctor in a corner with a computer looking constantly at the evidence of success that was presented early on.