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To: Sergio H who wrote (4417)5/23/2020 8:43:49 AM
From: bruwin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4719
 
" ... how about a look at these AI stocks with the metrics being revenue growth, recurring revenue growth, gross margin growth and change in fully diluted share count and we can compare it to Amazon at its origin."

With regard to me putting together the relevant numbers for the above highlighted items ..... first of all I generally only have 3 web site sources that I use to get my Fundamental Data, .... KOYFIN, YAHOO FINANCE and FINVIZ. The information there is for free as I'm not prepared to pay for it if I can avoid it, and it's satisfactory for my needs.

However, the "historical" fundamental data from KOYFIN and YAHOO doesn't go further back than between 4 and 5 years. FINVIZ is more for screening.

Maybe you can elaborate a bit more about what you need from the above 4 metrics.

If the above 3 web sites has any of that info built in then one can just read it off there. Otherwise one would have to download the relevant numbers into EXCEL and do some calculations to get the answers one is looking for.

That is what I do to put together my "fundamental value scan", as E_K_S calls it. I enter 15 numbers into a table and EXCEL automatically does the calculations and transposes the results into that template that I present. Doesn't take more than a few minutes.




To: Sergio H who wrote (4417)5/23/2020 10:03:45 AM
From: E_K_S1 Recommendation

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DinoNavarre

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Some very good points brought up on (1) how these large durable companies (like EMR & Honeywell) can maintain & build their intellectual property (ie investments in new technology), grow revenues & earnings, w/o being left in the dust w/ legacy solutions.

OneSoft would be an excellent acquisition candidate for EMR to expand their industrial business (specifically Oil/Gas customers) if had at the right price.
OneSoft has a more unique plan. They are the only co. in the world that offers A.I. cloud predictive analyses for oil and gas pipeline faults


This was announced Wednesday May 20, 2020

Emerson investing $100M in innovation, manufacturing

The nearly 180,000-square-foot expansion in Boulder, Colorado includes a new, 85,000-square-foot laboratory and manufacturing facility to design and develop products, technologies and software that measure and control the flow of material in a manufacturing process.

"Our new facility demonstrates our continued commitment to customer-driven innovation and high-tech manufacturing, as well as our focus on attracting the best and brightest talent to work for Emerson ( EMR +1.9%)," said CEO David Farr.

FWIW, my niece just obtained her MBA from MIT (business development w/ focus on AI manufacturing) and will be working in Denver for a consulting firm to help US manufactures gear up for this new 'smart' manufacturing revolution. I will have to ask if she knows about EMR's new facility in Boulder.
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Many High Tech companies generate No Profits/Earnings and even burn cash to achieve growth. As a Fundamental Value investor, I like the idea of generating profits, making investments in new products/technologies, creating a large expanding customer base (durable moat) by providing products and services customized to specific needs (industrial manufacturing) and being rewarded w/ higher margins and recurring service revenues.

It's a tough combination but Honeywell, Lockheed, and other large Fortune 500 companies have achieved this balance. GE used to deliver such results but went into the insurance area that cratered the company.

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For the investor that creates a portfolio of stocks, perhaps a basket of companies w/ an anchor like EMR could achieve the growth/gains that very small start-up provide but have a core holding revenue/income generator that EMR delivers. Maybe EMR's management is doing this w/ their $100M 'innovation' investment and there is no need for the individual portfolio investor to search out these innovators.

FWIW picked up another 20 shares of EMR at $55.80/share w/ more Buys every 1% lower until I can build a core position. I want to have a larger exposure to Industrial Manufacturing High Tech companies to capture what I think is the next wave of smart/robotic US manufactures.

More food for thought

EKS