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To: emertius who wrote (4418)	6/21/2020 2:08:10 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By pheilman_ Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22883

>> Here we go again. No, that is not the population his sample is drawn from in this study, IIRC. >> There are in fact ongoing double blind studies employing HC and Zn. Yes, with end dates in September, October, and later. Further delay for no reason. My position is that when you people dying and no generally accepted treatment, yet you have a treatment theoretically SHOULD work and HAS worked according to incidental reports from many sources, of a drug that has been used safely for 50 years, it is entirely acceptable to try it anecdotally. And if it clearly works anecdotally, it is appropriate to use it extensively when you have nothing else. Which is what we have at this point. Nothing else. >> If these results were very positive the trials would have been halted early and this would have been announced. But no serious trial to date has been conducted on early diagnosis (before hospitalization, mild symptoms) using Zinc & Azrithromycin + Vit D. What we've had a parade of studies on a treatment we have known doesn't work for months. It gets more complicated, though. While "cabal" is strong, it does have that look and feel. You have the VA "study", which was a totally absurd attempt that clearly was done in an effort to paint HCQ with a bad light. It was done by rank amateurs as a retrospective on patients who were given inconsistent medications and dosages, and who were near death when the came into the VA facility. It was done by ophthalmologists. In short, entirely incompetent study. That was the first attack. A person has to question why this was even written up--it added zero to the body of knowledge. Yet, it was given top billing. Then, the Brazilian study, which effectively overdosed nearly dead patients on HCQ, killing them. Although I've no medical training, when I read the study I immediately recognized the dosages were too high. More bad press, more irrelevance. Dead patients freak people out. Big press. More recently, the Lancet study -- which again, was immediately recognizable as irrelevant to the usage that is most likely to save lives. And only days later the study must be withdrawn. And these are are just a start. Those of us who believe the essence of the treatment is the Zinc WITH HCQ have been outraged. It is a simple thing. Harmless. You just try it. Where things get complicated is one guy who proposed this -- Zelenko, proposed the combination and had it ignored for weeks while doctors in NYC were telling patients, in effect, to go home and come back in an ambulance. They weren't sick enough. And soon they're dead. He documents his numbers but has never, I'm sure, been involved in a formal study. So, he arranges with a facility that has, they begin enrollment, and an email is "accidentally" sent to a DOJ attorney who suddenly decides he needs to get involved and stop this trial because some irrelevant "i" wasn't dotted. That is bizarre. You have people dying in hospitals by the thousands and a DOJ bureaucrat lawyer gets involved and stops the RCT in its tracks? So, yes, that does have the look and feel of a cabal, even though it cannot be proved. Now, before this legitimate study can be completed, we have FDA telling doctors to quit using the drug. Zelenko, hopefully, will have his paper out shortly and we will know. Were I to get the virus I'd be seeking a doctor to prescribe HCQ and Azrithromycin, and I can find some Zinc.

To: emertius who wrote (4418)	6/21/2020 6:43:51 PM
From: Investor2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22883

There are in fact ongoing double blind studies employing HC and Zn. Can you give me some information on these tests? Thanks, I2

To: emertius who wrote (4418)	6/21/2020 6:49:48 PM
From: Investor2	1 Recommendation Recommended By Paul Smith Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22883

Do you seriously believe that there is cabal involving all of the top medical scientific and academic communities world wide with the intention of suppressing an effective treatment for COVID-19? With all of the bogus "studies" being written up, published, and subsequently withdrawn, I'm beginning to wonder what is going on. Best wishes, I2

To: emertius who wrote (4418)	6/21/2020 7:24:01 PM
From: Investor2	1 Recommendation Recommended By Paul Smith Respond to of 22883

Do you seriously believe that there is cabal involving all of the top medical scientific and academic communities world wide with the intention of suppressing an effective treatment for COVID-19? Here's someone who is raising that very question: Garbage 'Science': Be Wary Of What You're Being Told