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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1243412)	6/30/2020 10:45:42 AM
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Minnesota Attorney General Sues Exxon Over Climate Change June 29, 20204:00 PM ET Heard on All Things Considered LISTEN·5:535-Minute ListenAdd toPLAYLIST DownloadEmbed Transcript Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, pictured on June 3, is leading a lawsuit against Exxon Mobil, Koch Industries and the American Petroleum Institute. Scott Olson/Getty Images Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison is suing Exxon Mobil, Koch Industries, and the American Petroleum Institute over what he calls "a campaign of deception" about climate change that the companies "orchestrated and executed with disturbing success." Ellison and his office say internal documents show the oil and gas companies knew the damage that fossil fuels would cause as far back as the 1970s and '80s, yet hid that science and instead launched public relations campaigns denying climate change. "They directly contradicted what their research found," Ellison tells NPR. "We can prove that and we will." The lawsuit claims that the oil and gas companies violated Minnesota laws against consumer fraud, deceptive trade practices and false statements in advertising. Ellison said last week that the state is seeking "substantial" damages and for the companies to fund a public education campaign about climate change. Exxon Mobil responded, calling the lawsuit part of an "ongoing coordinated, politically motivated campaign against energy companies." "Legal proceedings like this waste millions of dollars of taxpayer money and do nothing to advance meaningful actions that reduce the risks of climate change," the company added, calling the claims "baseless and without merit." Other states and cities have sued Exxon Mobil and other oil companies over climate change. Most recently, Exxon Mobil won a suit last year brought by New York's attorney general accusing the company of misleading investors. Ellison talked with NPR's All Things Considered about the case. Interview Highlights On his supporting evidence We have documents, such as one stamped "proprietary information" from Exxon Engineering, which says, "the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has increased" and "the rate of CO2 release from anthropogenic sources appears to be doubling every 15 years. The most widely held theory is that the increase is due to fossil fuel combustion." That document was from Oct. 16, 1979. So they knew in '79 and then they lied about it. They actually, they produced propaganda, which essentially said things like: "Who told you the Earth was warming? Chicken Little?" And then other ones: "The most serious problem with catastrophic global warming is that it may not be true." They directly contradicted what their research found. We can prove that and we will. On why the lawsuit begins by saying global warming will "disproportionately impact people living in poverty and people of color" Well, because it's true, which is always important, to make sure that we tell the story about what's really going on here. So many civil rights groups that work on issues of racial and economic justice don't always factor in the environmental realities that people of color and low-income people face. I mean, the fact is, is that environmental justice and environmental harms that disproportionately affect communities of color and low-income people is a civil rights issue and it should be treated as that. We've got to make sure that as people are working on criminal justice and things like that, that they factor in environmental justice, as urgent as it is. On examples of how climate change is already impacting Minnesotans If you're a farmer, you probably have seen much wetter fields than you've ever seen. Those wetter fields delay your growing season. You've seen infestation and pests that are impacting. There are a range of things that Minnesotans are seeing every day. We saw many of them join with us just last week. One person who was with us was an environmentalist who is from the White Earth Nation of Ojibwe. And she was talking about how wild rice production has been dramatically impacted, which is a, she called it a sacred food of the Ojibwe people, and how that just climate change has so dramatically affected how they can harvest their crop. NPR's Noah Caldwell and Dave Blanchard produced and edited the audio version of this interview npr.org

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1243412)	6/30/2020 2:57:12 PM
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That means you're for the group they oppose; there is no middle ground. - Wharf Rat I didn't like it when Bush Jr said that and I don't like it when you say it. Why? Because only simple minded people thing the world must only be broken down into black or white. We don't live in a binary world. In fact, the world is far more complex and nuanced. It's also why I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. They are becoming more polarized and less rational. Anyone who gives you only a binary choice is engaging in polemics and hyperbole. It is a sign of hysteria and designed to divide, not to unite or reconcile. Truly thoughtful people who are trying to actually solve problems understand that we have a range of choices, far more than two. There is no denying that bad things happened in this country a long time ago, but we've come a long way. No black people are picking cotton, as in the picture you posted, unless they actually want to do that. More than likely, the people picking cotton are my own people, the Latin Americans. So your attempt at once again vilifying both corporations and the white people is falling on deaf ears only because it is simply not a true characterization. Rather, it is a false narrative and does not help to make this world a better place. It is now abundantly clear that none of this is about black people. They are being used to achieve a larger goal. None of you actually care about black people. Otherwise, you wouldn't be encouraging them to engaged in mass protests that spread COVID infections among them, while also understanding that they are two times more likely to die of COVID than other races. So your party is quite literally responsible for many deaths of black people as a result of these riots and the aftermath of them. But that's not new either, is it? The Democrats are responsible for slavery in this country, for creating the KKK, for Jim Crow, for 19 of 20 of the most violent cities in this country, for the systematic impoverishment of black people. In point of fact, the data tells us the Democrats are the worst people to represent black people. But you have them fooled. Meanwhile, the only thing Trump did to black people was bring them the lowest black unemployment in their history. These are all facts that are impossible to refute.