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To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)7/15/2020 4:01:32 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 218068
 
Hi C2, I know the city Yichang and the 3G dam well enough as I travelled there often (search on ‘Yichang’ 2001 on SI and I had posted from there often enough Message 15568629 and Message 15878882 for examples

My impression of the 3G dam google.com was that it was one big piece of concrete. I did listen to a guided tour about the project.

The dam project was idea of my grandfather’s boss, Sun Yat-sen, circa 1919. The inception design had some American DNA I believe, and circa 1944 according to Wikipedia.

Commissioning circa 2005.

I checked the share price bloomberg.com and the market seems to believe the dam will not collapse. Market is not always right.

Other than above I do not know. I imagine the evacuation is precautionary. No different than an earthquake evacuation only bigger. The upside substantial and downside limited.

The lockdown of Wuhan earlier was also on scale folks found difficult to think about, until it made some sense.

I made a point many times on SI, that China does somethings BIG.

I think a lot of routine news weaponised beyond recognition, and politicized, and geo-politicized.



To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)7/15/2020 4:33:09 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218068
 
Some geo-engineering projects needing doing

All bullish, unfortunately, for the consolation prize ;0/

For anything we intend to leave the kids, if anything, there is no reason not to allocate 50% of the intended legacy in we-know-what, it can be easily argued, and 25% in education, and 25% in whatever else. Space Ship Earth has issues

bloomberg.com
Rising Seas Mean More Flooding Will Be Coming to New York City
Brian K Sullivan
July 13, 2020, 4:00 PM GMT+2

bloomberg.com
Moving a Capital City to the Jungle
By Philip Heijmans, Hannah Dormido and Adrian Leung
January 23, 2020, 11:00 PM

interestingengineering.com
7 Sinking Cities Around the World
Christopher McFadden

Cities might appear to be monuments to man's dominance over nature, but looks might indeed be deceiving. Despite all the machinations of mankind, these 7 cities are sinking.

From shifting tectonic plates to prehistoric legacies, these cities could be "swimming with the fishes" by the end of the century if solutions can't be found.

RELATED: TOP 9 MOST HIGH-TECH CITIES IN THE WORLD

What city is sinking the fastest?According to a study called " Sinking Cities" by Dr. Katherine Kramer, the world's fastest sinking city is Jakarta in Indonesia. To date, 40% of the city has already succumbed to rising waters.

As it turns out, the city is sinking at an incredible 25 cm a year!

Jakarta lacks a reliable network of piped-in water, causing many the city's inhabitants building and using private, unregulated, water wells.

According to The New York Times, this causes underground aquifers to become drained, “like deflating a giant cushion underneath the city.”

This has led to a double-edged sword of issues for the city. Heavy rains regularly flood the city's neighborhoods and its heavy development (especially abundance of skyscrapers) are compromising the city's weak, and groundwater drained foundations.

What European cities are sinking?Believe it or not, various European cities are currently sinking. This might sound crazy, but it is indeed true.

Some of the most notable European cities that are experiencing large-scale subsidence include, but are not limited to:

Venice, Italy (of course)Rotterdam, The NetherlandsLondon, The United Kingdom (more or this later)Is New York City sinking?It most certainly is. According to a study reported in Scientific American, New York could, by 2100, have sunk around 5 feet (12.7 m).

Its problems are very similar to those of other sinking cities like London.

"Since North American glaciers began retreating 20,000 years ago, the crust from New York City to North Carolina has been sinking, as the larger continent continues to adjust to the unloading." - Scientific American.

New York's woes are also not helped by its insatiable groundwater extraction and proximity to two large rivers that have a tendency to flood.

What cities are sinking?So, without further ado, here are 7 of the world's most notable sinking cities. This list is far from exhaustive, we are sad to say.

It is also in no particular order.

1. Shanghai, ChinaSource: Gary Todd/FlickrShanghai is, believe it or not, one of the world's fastest sinking cities. According to sources like EcoWatch, the city is sinking at a rate of around 1 cm per year.

The main cause of the subsidence is groundwater extraction.

This is dramatically down from only a few decades when rate whereas high as 9 cm a year. This dramatic improvement was achieved by local officials requiring official permits for any water wells from 1995.

The city is also losing sediment that would naturally protect it as its rivers are dammed and sediment is used as a construction material.

2. Mexico City, MexicoSource: ap0013/FlickrMexico City is one of the world's sinking cities. Groundwater extraction is, according to EcoWatch, causing the city's water table to drop at around 38 cm a year in places.

Over the last 60 years, the city has actually subsided around 9.8 meters or so.

As water is extracted from under the city it leaves empty spaces where the water once was. Over time this is compressed by the weight above, resulting in subsidence.

Another contributing factor is the fact that the city was once built on a drained lake within an old volcanic crater.

3. Bangkok, Thailand

Bangkok is yet another of the world's sinking cities. In fact, the city could be in serious danger of becoming irreparably sunk within the next decade or so.

It is currently sinking at around 2 cm a year.

A 2015 government report predicted the city will likely be underwater by around 2030. The main culprit, like other cities on this list, is groundwater extraction.

Action has been taken to attempt to mitigate this problem such as the 1977 Ground Water Act that has attempted to restrict the practice. Groundwater extraction rates have been reduced and water is also being pumped back underground.

But these measures might not be enough to save the city in the long run.

4. Venice, ItalySource: Pedro Szekely/FlickrProbably the most famous example of sinking cities is Venice in Italy. The city is sinking at around 1 to 2 mm a year.

Best known for its extensive waterways and romantic history, the city is built in a muddy lagoon with inadequate foundations.

This is causing the ground beneath the city to compact over time. Combined with gradual sea level rises over time, the city is slowly being reclaimed by nature.

It has a relatively low population when compared to other cities, which means groundwater extraction is less of a problem for the city but isn't helping matters.

5. Lagos, Nigeria

Lagos in Nigeria is another city sinking under its own weight. The city was built on the coast and incorporates a series of islands.

The city suffers from poor drainage and is under constant threat of flooding. One 2012 study showed that just a sea-level rise of 1 to 3 meterswould be catastrophic for the region.

Its large population also consumes huge amounts of groundwater every year leading to series subsidence over time.

6. London, The United Kingdom

The famous and iconic British capital of London is another of the world's sinking cities. Unfortunately for the city's officials, the problem is a legacy from the city's prehistoric past.

During the last ice age, enormous glaciers covered much of Northern Europe. Their weight pushed the Earth's crust in Northern regions like Scotland, resulting in relative rises in the land to the South.

Once the glaciers melted, the crust "rebounded" resulting in Scotland rising at around 1 mm a year. London, on the other hand, is sinking at around the same rate - making it increasingly prone to sea-level rise.

As a result, the enormous Thames Barrier, that first opened in 1984 to mitigate this issue, was expected to only be used 2-3 times a year to protect it from one-in-100-year floods.

In fact, it is currently being used around 6-7 times a year.

7. Dhaka, BangladeshSource: blese/Flickr Dhaka in Bangladesh is yet another city sinking under its own weight. Currently sinking at around 1.5 cm a year, the cities woes are a combination of plate tectonics, groundwater extraction, and sea-level rise.

The Bay of Bengal is rising at around 10 times the global average which has already resulted in millions of people migrating from surrounded coastal villages to the city's slums. This population needs to be supplied with potable water leading to excessive groundwater extraction that isn't helping the situation.

The Indian plate and Burman sub-plate are also interacting in such a way as to further compound the city's sinking problems.

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To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)7/15/2020 9:55:34 AM
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the coconut grasshopper did below (yes, a grammar error spotted in first paragraph :0) in 45 minutes for standardised test

she got it, the <<fiat money inflation>> :0) and a bit more stuff I did not know and would likely never know but for what am reading here, all sounding like blah blah blah








To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)7/15/2020 8:16:19 PM
From: maceng2  Respond to of 218068
 
I've blown hot and cold on both sides of the argument regarding the "Climate change" discussions over the decades. I was environmentalist to start with and then went decidedly anti "gangsta banksta" when it became obvious to me that a lot of the so called "science" was dependent on the funding source.

However, here is my current view....

Regarding cloud cover and precipitation...



A proxy for cosmic ray influx.



Here is a nice piece of historical equipment with an update.

youtube.com

Now here some other old equipment. A cloud chamber.

youtube.com

Interesting, an electric field applied to a cloud chamber. Gives more visual indications.

youtube.com

However the point is that an increased in flux of high energy particles indicates a larger cloud formation rate.

Clouds do insulated the ground from radiation of heat into outer space, but they also will reduce heat transfer from the Sun to the Earth from the albedo effect.

Now of course I am interested in an experts view of whether this gives an overall increase in climatic temperature, or a decrease, but for a number of solid economic reasons, I prefer to hear the private view rather then the published one... the one driven by any research grant. As always, money talks.

No big surprise to see an increase in rainfall and flooding though, if that happens, none at all. I can even figure that one out for myself -g-



To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)7/15/2020 11:15:17 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 218068
 
The boyz at the CBs are playing cooperatively, and all ‘winning’ is sequence at boosting the underlying ‘natural’ demand for alt-monies

bloomberg.com

Decade of the Dollar at Imminent Risk as Slide Threatens Uptrend
Cormac MullenJuly 16, 2020, 3:47 AM GMT+2

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The slump in the dollar is threatening to bring to an imminent end its near-decade-long uptrend against major peers.

Deutsche Bank’s Trade-Weighted Dollar Index -- a gauge of the currency against the U.S.’s most important trading partners -- has fallen to test the trendline in place since 2011, a break of which would be an important signal for dollar bears. The index has dropped more than 1% so far this month amid weakening demand for havens, an ongoing rally in risk assets and a shift in sentiment toward currencies like the euro and yuan.



Dollar strength has been a feature of much of the last 10 years. The trade-weighted basket climbed over 40% from the 2011 low to its recent peak in March, at the height of coronavirus fears. Yet a growing chorus of commentators is calling for the currency to decline, as the global economy attempts to recover from the impact of the pandemic.

The ICE U.S. Dollar Index -- another gauge of the currency -- is expected to weaken about 2% to 94.1 by the second quarter of next year, according to an analyst survey compiled by Bloomberg. It traded around the 96 level Thursday.

“Improving domestic economic trends in the euro area and China, as well as our rising conviction in structural dollar weakness over time, reinforce our view that the dollar is poised to weaken against these major currencies,” wrote Goldman Sachs Group Inc. strategist Zach Pandl this week.

Before it's here, it's on the Bloomberg Terminal.
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To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)8/14/2020 2:05:20 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 218068
 
Re <<flooding in China>>

I expect continuing infrastructure / geo-forming / southern-water-northward-flow projects ( google.com ) to reduce then preclude floods

The above link is the reason I tend to dismiss out of hand anyone suggesting China is infrastructure-built out already, as ... well, I stop there ;0)
In the meantime, besides the dams, below had been started a few years ago, and my generalized takeaway w/r to China on +/- sides, think huge, for nothing is impossible

China does not have a water problem; an opportunity yes.

bloomberg.com

After 500 Years Trying to Tame Fatal Floods, China Tries a New Way

“Sponge cities” use rooftop gardens, permeable pavements and underground tanks to try to keep unruly rivers under control.

More stories by Sarah McBride
August 13, 2020, 2:00 PM PDT



Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg

“Sponge cities” use rooftop gardens, permeable pavements and underground tanks to try to keep unruly rivers under control.

Bloomberg News
August 13, 2020, 2:00 PM PDT

In Chongqing’s ramshackle neighborhood of Old Street, down by the Yangtze River, shopkeeper Liu cleans up the mess from last month’s floods. She lines up dozens of pairs of sodden, mud-caked shoes on the pavement outside, appealing hopefully to a passer-by, “I will sell at any price.”

The pedestrian moves quickly on and Liu is left to rue a curse that besets China almost every year, costing millions of dollars in damage and, in bad years like this one, hundreds of lives — the failure to prevent its rivers from overflowing.

“None of us expected the flood to be so serious,” said Liu, 63, who like many Chinese citizens, only gave her family name. “I was standing at the window of my home not far from here watching the floodwaters rising. There was nothing I could do except worry.”



A man hoses off the mud on the banks of the Yangtze River in Chongqing on July 27.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
For centuries, China’s response to its unruly rivers has been to try to restrain them with levees, dams and canals to “make the high mountain bow its head and make the river yield its way,” as Chairman Mao Zedong put it. China’s National Climate Center has records of natural disasters going back 500 years, and in almost every one of them there was a major flood. Yet the rivers continue to burst and China’s rapid urbanization is making things worse. Former flood plains have become houses and factories, protected by ever-higher embankments.

So the government is trying a new approach.

On the northeastern fringe of Chongqing, around the giant new international exhibition center, the rising district of Yuelai is designed as a “sponge city.” China’s cities flood partly because most of the water-retaining land that used to absorb rainfall — grassland, woods and lakes — has been paved over, forcing rain to flow directly into poorly built or outdated sewage and drainage systems that can no longer cope.



Water catchment ponds in Yuelai New Town.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
The “sponge city” initiative, launched in 2015, is an attempt to reverse that — soak up heavy precipitation and release it slowly into the river and reservoirs. Using features such as rooftop gardens, scenic wetland parks, permeable pavements and underground storage tanks, the plan is to eventually absorb or reuse 70% of the rainwater that falls on four-fifths of China's urban land.

“We need to give the space back to the water,” said Yu Kongjian, professor of landscape architecture at Peking University. “We should treat water as a valuable resource, not our enemy.”

Yuelai is one of the pilot sites approved by the central government. Its Exhibition Center Park is set lower than the surrounding ground to collect rainwater, which is filtered by layers of aquatic plants. Rain falling on rooftops is diverted to nearby parks, sidewalks are made of absorbent materials.


Water retention roofs in Yuelai.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg

While Liu and her fellow shopkeepers in the old city were cleaning out silt-filled stores, in Yuelai, on the banks of the Jialing River, there was little sign of inundation. Among tended lawns and newly paved roads, workers place the final touches to buildings that will be part of a new business district. On the roofs of restaurants and shops behind the exhibition halls, three laborers cut the grass on a rooftop garden that’s designed to soak up rain.

It seems like a positive sign for Chongqing, built among mountains where two major rivers meet — the Jialing and the Yangtze, which has had more money spent on preventing flooding than most. Chongqing is at the top of the 600 kilometer long reservoir created by the $24 billion Three Gorges Dam, China’s largest single flood-mitigation project. Completed in 2006, the dam generates 22.5 gigawatts of power, but its primary role was to regulate the annual flooding of the Yangtze.



Chongqing sits at the confluence of the Jialing and Yangtze rivers.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
A museum in Chongqing commemorates the 1.4 million people who were forced to leave homes that were flooded by the project, “a witness of Chinese people making personal sacrifices for the good of the motherland,” said the museum’s guide. A picture on the wall shows an old man handing his son a young Huangjue fig tree to plant in his new home, 1,500 kilometers away, to remember his roots.

Each spring, the reservoir’s vast lake is lowered to accommodate the summer rains and prevent floodwaters from inundating cities downstream like Wuhan. The dam was designed to regulate floods so large they only occur once in 10,000 years, but within a decade of its completion, Wuhan, downstream of the barrage, was inundated again as the Yangtze burst its banks.

“Three Gorges Dam can hold a lot of water but not the entire Yangtze”

Wuhan was once known as the “city of 100 lakes,” a reference to its giant flood plain which used to absorb the river’s annual floods. About three-quarters of those lakes were filled in for construction in the past thirty years.

“China has lost most of its natural wetlands along the Yangtze River, so there’s no place for the water to go,” said Jennifer Turner, Director of the China Environment Forum at Wilson Center based in Washington, DC.

This year, the city that was the genesis of the global coronavirus pandemic was hit again.

Dams “may be useful for controlling floods in normal years but not years like this,” said Darrin Magee, professor of environmental studies at Hobart and William Smith Colleges in New York, who predicts the flooding will probably get worse due to climate change. “Three Gorges Dam can hold a lot of water but not the entire Yangtze.”



Water is released from the Three Gorges Dam to relieve flood pressure in Yichang, on July 19.
Photographer: AFP via Getty Images
The government and the dam’s operator have said that the flooding downstream would have been worse without the dam as the volume of water released from the reservoir was less than the amount of water flowing in.

As the floods swept across southern China in July, the National Development and Reform Commission promised to spend another 1.29 trillion yuan ($184.38 billion) on 150 major “water projects” in the next few years — normally a reference to more dams, reservoirs and dikes. The banks of the Yangtze and its tributaries now have an estimated 34,000 kilometers of levees, more than the length of the Great Wall of China. While the policy has helped save lives, flooding remains China’s biggest natural headache. Between 1950 and 2018, more than 280,000 people died and 9.6 million hectares of crops were lost due to floods.



A man pushes mud off the banks of the Yangtze River in Chongqing.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
Yu at Peking University said the top leadership has realized the need for a greener approach but it’s difficult to change the long-embedded practices at a provincial level. “It’s a long process to change people’s belief that bigger means better,” he said.

Big economic and environmental strategies dictated by Beijing tend to get corrupted as they filter down to local government level, with provincial officials and companies using the political endorsement and government money to pursue their own agendas. Developers portray potential projects as efforts to implement Beijing’s agenda in order to gain rapid approval for new construction.

Near the five star Wyndham Hotel in Yuelai, bulldozers and cranes flatten land that was previously tree-covered hills, one of dozens of new development projects in the new towns that have sprung up on the edges of Chongqing.



Top: New constructions spring up around Yuelai New Town. Bottom: Water retention areas on both sides of Yueju road.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
“The developers cut down the forest and destroy the grass, build houses, and then plant decorative trees so it becomes a ‘sponge city’ and they make a bunch of money,” said Zuo, a taxi driver in Chongqing who also would only give his family name.

And once the money is spent and the new developments built, there’s often little incentive to maintain the original program. In one of Yuelai’s earliest sponge projects, a rainwater-collecting garden is filled with rubbish and wild grass has overgrown the plants designed to purify the rainwater.

It’s also hard to “green” cities retroactively. Most of China’s sponge city projects are in new suburbs. Chongqing says they now cover 40 square kilometers of the municipality, but in communities like Old Street few people have even heard of the term. “It’s much more difficult to fix the existing problems in the old sector of cities that are populous and badly planned.” said Yang Peifeng, professor of urban planning and architecture at Chongqing University.



A man rests at Egongyan Park, located under an elevated highway interchange in Chongqing.
Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
Yet China’s sponge city initiative is a sign that the tide in China is turning and that development at all costs is becoming less acceptable to the nation’s citizens.

“I would love to see people just leave the nature alone of course, but it’s not realistic to stop development in China right now,” said Yu Jianfeng, founder of Chongqing-based pressure group the Public Culture Center of Environmental Protection for Rivers. “But at least sponge cities give the urbanization some rules and restrictions.”

— With assistance by Sharon Chen, Karoline Kan, Low De Wei, and Kevin Dharmawan



To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)8/19/2020 6:21:35 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218068
 
Hello C2, was not but now am concerned about the China flooding

DEFCON 5 possibly and am watching.

Not about the dam, but the dam might play a part, or CoVid, or whatever.

If folks were concerned about the supply chain for socks, they might get worked up about same for industrial vitamins and technology cardiac event medication.

Should a shortage develop due to renewed CoVid protocol, and concurrent doubtless coincidental re-up of environmental protection issues, or convenient flood measure, and whatever, the world could run dry of rare earth faster than of masks and gloves.

Big boyz play different. Dress rehearsal. Too much too coincidental. All plausible. CoVid vaccine nationalism? Tame stuff.

Should an all-in situation make appearance, gold may go Unobtainium, reaching closure on confluence of all vectors towards the mother of all printings to resolutely counter Mother Nature actions accelerated by decisions misunderstood. Nasdaq may have a bullseye painted on it, and if laser illuminated, bull dead.

Watching.

sg.news.yahoo.com

China’s rare earth export plunge caused by coronavirus, not Beijing agenda, industry group says

marketscreener.com

China rare earths firm Shenghe hit by 'once-in-a-century' flooding

BEIJING, Aug 19 (Reuters) - Chinese rare earths producer Shenghe Resources Holding Co is set to lose tens of millions of dollars after reporting that "once-in-a-century" flooding in southwest Sichuan province had shut down plants and damaged inventory.

Floods on China's Yangtze river, which passes through Sichuan, forced authorities to evacuate more than 100,000 people on Tuesday.

Shenghe subsidiary Leshan Shenghe and Sichuan Runhe Catalytic New Material Co, in which it holds a 38.1% stake, were affected by the flooding, Shenghe said in a Wednesday filing to the Shanghai Stock Exchange.

"The water level ... is quite deep. At the moment the factories have completely stopped production and all personnel have been evacuated safely," the statement said.

Shenghe added in a follow-up statement there were no casualties and nor did any dangerous material leak. The rare earths production process can have a radioactive byproduct.

Shares of Shenghe fell 10 percent on Wednesday.

China is the world's dominant producer of rare earths, a group of 17 minerals used in consumer electronics and military equipment.

Leshan Shenghe, which processes rare earths into material usable by manufacturers, is expected to lose 240 million-330 million yuan ($35 million-$48 million) due to the flooding, including 220 million-280 million yuan in inventory, the filing said.

That exceeds the 83.8 million yuan Shenghe said in a separate filing that the unit's inventory was insured up to. Leshan Shenghe produced more than 28,000 tonnes of rare earth salts in 2019.

Shenghe, which also has a minority stake in U.S. rare earths miner MP Materials, said the plants would work to resume production under local government guidance, without giving a time frame.

Shenghe distributes rare earth concentrate from MP Materials' California mine to Chinese refiners. It was not immediately clear if the flooding had affected that distribution operation. MP Materials declined to give official comment. ($1 = 6.9075 Chinese yuan renminbi) (Reporting by Tom Daly, Min Zhang and Ernest Scheyder; Editing by Jan Harvey and Richard Pullin)

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To: carranza2 who wrote (160152)1/20/2021 7:33:34 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 218068
 
I have been there.. it is pretty freaking awesome.. I hope it lives up..