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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)7/26/2020 7:12:55 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217618
 
Mq you were making platinum, not gold. But platinum is more useful. To get gold you need to toss in a hydrogen along with the train tracks .

Hydrogen is available cheap from water, methane and oil.

Mqurice



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)7/26/2020 11:06:35 PM
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1 kg=2.2 lbs.

Thus, 50 kg.= 110 lb., not 100 lb.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)7/27/2020 5:22:15 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217618
 
Re <<ounce>>
Gold metal faithfuls work in troy ounces and not ounces, but yes, close enough for government work especially if for tax purposes. But as the value-appreciation increases, it might at some stage, say gold @ 3,000, possibly 5,000, probably @ 10,000, likely @ 20,000, almost certainly @ 50,000, matter whether we are talking which unit. Right now now matter. Only direction matters.

Re <<digital>>
You are right. Digital is more convenient / sissy and less mucho macho. I am good w/ my current condition of having both convenient paper gold as well as troublesome physical; and amongst the physical, more convenient bars and coins, and very troublesome panda gold coins. The bother helps me w/ the discipline.

The button-enabled paper gold always concerned me, to be thrown off of the bull at push of momentary button-enabled greed or fear or both. Both emotions at the same time, facilitated by button, is deliciously agonizing.

The very most-troublesome panda gold either must be sold one at a time on the web in the appropriate forums as numismatic, or in 10s and 20s to Bank of China, or the easiest, by arrangement w/ any the the Swiss subsidiary mints located in HK, to melt as transact as standard bars w/ clear chain of custody involving only the melting pot, the mint, the monetary custodian, and the buying party, without personal touch and feel that pollutes the purity w/ a smudgy finger print.

Re <<pointless>>
I agree, that gold is pointless most of the time, except when it goes ramping upward, like the way a parachute opens up, and zooms skyward, and one knows “going to be okay for the coming impact>>. Parachute is not suggested when swimming.

Re <<gold>>
Gold is too cheap.

Inflation also plays an important role in looking at prices in an historical context. Spot gold traded as high as $1,944.71 on Monday, topping its previous record by more than $20. But when adjusted for inflation, bullion remains lower than its 2011 high and far below the historic peak in 1980, in the wake of the second oil price shock.

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Gold Rips Up Record Book as $2,000 Test Looms in Hunt for Haven

Ranjeetha Pakiam

Gold’s unrelenting march higher shows no signs of slowing after a plunge in the dollar swept prices past the previous high set in 2011 and put the metal on track for even bigger gains.

Bullion’s surge came as a gauge of the U.S. currency sank to the lowest in more than a year, the latest in a long line of bullish factors -- including negative real rates in the U.S. and bets the Federal Reserve will keep policy accommodative when it meets this week -- that are pushing prices ever higher.

With the world facing an extended period of unprecedented economic and political turmoil, gold’s now got $2,000 in its sights. Some in the market suggest the haven could rise even beyond that.



Nascent signs of gold’s record-breaking ascent began to show in mid-2019, when the Fed signaled a readiness to cut interest rates as uncertainty -- primarily about the impact of the U.S.’s trade battles -- clouded its outlook. The rally gathered pace in early 2020 as geopolitical tensions rose and the coronavirus outbreak hurt growth worldwide, pushing governments and central banks to unleash vast amounts of stimulus, and sending real interest rates slumping further into negative territory.

“Strong gains are inevitable as we enter a period much like the post-GFC environment, where gold prices soared to record levels as a result of copious amounts of Fed money being pumped into the financial system,” said Gavin Wendt, senior resource analyst at MineLife Pty. A weak dollar and negative real rates are providing further impetus. Gold may consolidate before setting its sights on $2,000 and above in coming weeks, he said.

The Message Behind Gold’s Rally: The World Economy Is in Trouble

Investment demand has been unrelenting. Holdings in gold-backed exchange-traded funds have beaten all-time highs nearly every month since late last year and inflows this year have topped the record annual total set in 2009. The additions make up roughly one-fifth of expected mine supply for the year, according to research group Metals Focus.

Gold’s been drawing investors even as equities climbed -- with the exception of a sharp selloff in March as traders liquidated bullion holdings to cover losses in other markets -- and it’s U.S. bonds that have been the key metric to watch. The metal is serving as an attractive hedge as yields on Treasuries that strip out the effects of inflation fall below zero.

The environment has even raised the specter of stagflation, a rare combination of sluggish growth and rising inflation that erodes the value of fixed-income investments. In the U.S., investor expectations for annual inflation over the next decade, as measured by a bond-market metric known as breakevens, have moved higher the past four months after plunging in March.

Inflation also plays an important role in looking at prices in an historical context. Spot gold traded as high as $1,944.71 on Monday, topping its previous record by more than $20. But when adjusted for inflation, bullion remains lower than its 2011 high and far below the historic peak in 1980, in the wake of the second oil price shock.



It’s not just price moves that are proving historic. The virus shined a spotlight on a traditionally overlooked corner of the market: logistics. A chaotic period in March saw extreme distortions between London and New York prices due to an unprecedented snarl in the movement of physical metal, with the grounding of flights and refinery shutdowns sparking concerns about a shortage of bullion available in New York in time to deliver against Comex futures.

That crisis eased -- there was enough gold -- but the dislocation prompted CME Group Inc., which owns Comex, to announce that it would offer a new futures contract with expanded delivery options that included 400-ounce bars, which is the size accepted in London. It later said traders will be able to deliver gold in London vaults against the new contract.

Fed MeetsNext up for investors and a possible fillip for gold, is this week’s Fed meeting July 28-29, where officials are expected to keep interest rates near zero and debate a possible shift in its strategy.

The meeting may be a platform for a strong message that change is coming, opening up the possibility for more unconventional policies further down the line, according to Chris Weston, head of research at Pepperstone Group in Melbourne. “If we think about real yields and what the Fed is doing, it just suggests to me that it’s a matter of time before real yields continue to trend lower and gold goes higher.”

The Fed’s path forward will be closely watched. From December 2008 to June 2011, the Fed bought $2.3 trillion of debt and held borrowing costs near zero percent in a bid to shore up growth, helping send bullion to a record in September 2011.

Read More: Fed to Debate Dimming Outlook as Virus Surges, Fiscal Help Hangs

Forecasts for further gains have been building even before gold’s most recent breakthrough. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said the metal could reach $2,000 in the next 12 months, and Citigroup Inc. puts a 30% probability on prices topping that level by the end of this year. Bank of America Corp. has stuck with its April forecast for $3,000 gold over the next 18 months.

“You simply couldn’t pick a more perfect storm of events which would allow for gold to perform,” said Steve Dunn, head of ETFs at Aberdeen Standard Investments. “With low interest rate policies, negative real rates, super accommodative monetary policy, huge amounts of global fiscal spending, a weaker dollar, escalating U.S.-China tensions and no clear end in sight for the coronavirus pandemic, all of the parts of the equation are coming together.”

— With assistance by John Authers, Steven Frank, Vivien Lou Chen, and Matt Turner

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)8/6/2020 8:59:11 PM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation

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Re <<1600 ounces of gold = ... lb = ... kg ... hefty bag ... carry-on ... shoulder for a short time>>
(1) very short time, and very uncomfortable, if on shoulder
(2) hefty bag would involve contortion of walking pattern

Speaking of gold, assistant, after taking in the big coin Message 32869278 for and on behalf, later in the HK day received a package delivered by armed guards, and the pics appears to indicate all in good order

The coins w/ ornate designs are re-strikes (using original dies meant for making silver standard coins in the good old days when a dollar was a dollar) using shinier metal, 100 pieces per die design. Cannot wait to use the coins as hand-warmers and pocket ballast

I am missing one design, and there shall be two more released. All are useless. I want a set of all. I cannot explain the attraction. All pay no dividends, but all are and had always been faithful, and can be counted on, as well as counted.

Also got delivered 2020 Krugerrand coins which strangely were Unobtainium in Cape Town.

For good measure, got the last of the “Doh” Homer Simpson donut coins to mark a crazy year that may get crazier still. I like donuts and generally steer clear because I cannot be counted on to self-control. A donut gold coin is too much of a challenge. Need one more, else feel delinquent.










To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)8/7/2020 9:37:20 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217618
 
And so it is, that gold gave back 10+ % of 30-days gain.

When would you get in? :0) or is everything in relativity-arena on new equilibrium by your reckoning?

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Gold Pares Weekly Gain After Rally to Record, Silver Retreats

Eddie Spence
August 6, 2020, 6:25 PM PDT
Gold extended its decline from a record, trimming the longest stretch of weekly gains since 2006, as a stronger dollar curbed the metal’s haven appeal. Silver fell after earlier closing in on $30 an ounce.

The dollar headed for its first gain in four sessions amid a deepening rift between Washington and Beijing. President Donald Trump signed a pair of executive orders prohibiting U.S. residents from doing business with the Chinese-owned TikTok and WeChat apps beginning 45 days from now. Meanwhile, a high-powered U.S. panel recommended tightening the disclosure requirements for Chinese companies listed on American exchanges.

Bullion is still up more than 35% this year, putting it on track for the biggest annual gain in over four decades, as the health crisis, negative real rates, a broadly weaker dollar and geopolitical risks spark a flight to precious metals. Further gains are predicted -- Bank of America Corp. reiterated its forecast that gold may reach $3,000 an ounce in 18 months and said it’s “feasible”that silver could hit $35 in 2021.



“Gold and silver face stern tests of their character,” said Jeffrey Halley, senior market analyst, Asia Pacific at Oanda Corp., citing U.S. payroll data due later Friday and the boost to the dollar from Trump’s executive orders.

Spot gold declined 0.2% to $2,059.20 an ounce at 11:57 a.m. in London after earlier hitting a record $2,075.47. Prices are up for a ninth week. Holdings in exchange-traded funds backed by the metal are at an all-time high.

Spot silver dropped 2.1% to $28.3115 after earlier advancing as much as 3.2% to $29.8591, the highest since 2013.

Jobs ReportInvestors will now focus on the monthly employment report from the U.S., which is expected to show a slowdown in job gains last month after a surge in coronavirus cases across the country. Global infections passed 19 million.

“There is so much noise in the U.S economic numbers at present, with most of them flattering to deceive, that at present the markets should be looking to the longer term,” said Rhona O’Connell, head of market analysis for EMEA and Asia at StoneX Group Inc. However, if the employment report is “strong then it might extend any correction in gold and silver.”

Elsewhere, negotiations on a virus relief package ended with the White House and Democrats making no headway on resolving their biggest difference, bringing the talks to the brink of collapse. With no deal immediately in the offing, Trump said Thursday he is ready to sign orders extending enhanced unemployment benefits for the jobless and imposing a payroll tax holiday for employers and workers.

Signs that Europe’s biggest economy is finding its feet again may also be putting pressure on bullion. Germany’s industrial output grew slightly more than forecast in June, following figures released on Thursday that showed factory demand was at 90.7% of the level recorded at the end of last year. European Central Bank Chief Economist Philip Lane has cautioned against any premature optimism though, arguing that the region’s third-quarter performance will be key to determining the strength and sustainability of the recovery.

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)8/28/2020 4:29:39 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217618
 
We over time had speculated about the dollar

Now we are at juncture coming up where the dollar might turn socialist

Wondering if socialist dollar is worth as much as capitalist dollar

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Pimco Says Dollar’s Fall Is Just Starting With Asia FX to Gain
Chester Yung

The dollar’s decline has only just started, with room for the world’s reserve currency to weaken against emerging markets, according to Pacific Investment Management Co.

While the greenback has dropped against major peers, it’s still up about 2% on a trade-weighted basis and stronger than its average in 2019, according to Stephen Chang, a Pimco portfolio manager in Hong Kong. An important milestone will be the passage of a new U.S. stimulus package, he said.

“We are still in the early innings of dollar depreciation,” Chang said. “An important factor to watch is whether a phase four fiscal stimulus package will be passed in the U.S., as otherwise the discontinuity of fiscal support will lead to a significant risk-off and USD bullish event.”



The dollar has come under increasing pressure as the Trump administration struggles to reign in the pandemic and the Federal Reserve pledged unlimited liquidity to support a battered economy. The Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index has tumbled 10% since its March high while hedge funds have turned bearish on the greenback for the first time in two years.

The U.S. Congress is trying to break an impasse over a new deal, in addition to a record stimulus that’s already stoking inflation jitters among investors. The dollar could also face further weakness after Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell suggested Thursday that the policy makers are comfortable with higher levels of inflation, implying that U.S. rates will stay lower for longer.

“Under the Fed’s new regime, even once the U.S. economy begins to recover, markets will have far less reason to expect higher rates in the U.S.,” said Ranko Berich, head of market analysis at Monex Europe Ltd. in London. “As such, we are likely to see a far less responsive U.S. dollar to any possible economic upswing.”

Cyclical RecoveryWhile most developed nation currencies have benefited from a weaker dollar, Asian peers have lagged, said Chang. China’s yuan and the Korean won could do well, he said, echoing views from Credit Suisse Group AG and UBS Wealth Management.

Read More: Wall Street Rethinks Stock Strategy With Dollar Under Pressure

A “cyclical recovery in Asia, particularly in Korea and China, which have handled competently the public health situation, should allow these currencies to outperform,” said Chang before Powell’s speech.

Both Asian currencies are on track for their third month of gains against the dollar as improving risk appetite fuels demand for the assets.

“Low real rates would weaken the dollar,” said Kim Yumi, a market strategist at Kiwoom Securities Co. in Seoul. “Asia will generally benefit from dollar weakness with gains in the yuan, Taiwan dollar and won standing out.”

Pimco also favors Malaysian and Chinese government bonds on expectations the nations’ central banks may continue cutting rates to revive their pandemic-hit economies.

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Hedge Funds Are Short Dollars For First Time in Two Years
Doomsayers See End of Dollar Bull Run With Valuations Stretched
Dollar Sends Warning That U.S. Is Losing Its Grip on the Virus

— With assistance by Hooyeon Kim

(Updates with analysts comments in sixth and 10th paragraphs)

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (160577)8/28/2020 4:34:15 AM
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Speaking of the dollar, appears the icons are falling everywhere all at once, be they statues or songs, but not monetary concepts, yet

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'Rule, Britannia!' Is a Painful Tune for the U.K.

The BBC has been caught in a nascent British culture war over the jingoistic songs in the Last Night of the Proms. It will be damned whatever it does.

Martin Ivens
28 August 2020, 14:00 GMT+8

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A patriotic singalong?
Photographer: BEN STANSALL/AFP

Martin Ivens was editor of the Sunday Times from 2013 to 2020 and was formerly its chief political commentator. He is a director of the Times Newspapers board.
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In the U.S. the powder keg was lit by the killing of George Floyd and the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. In Britain, less dramatically, a culture war has erupted over a popular singalong evening of patriotic tunes. The “Last Night of the Proms” is a late summer concert in London, marking the end of a classical music festival which has run for more than 100 years.

The BBC — sponsor and broadcaster of an event that’s watched by millions at home and abroad — is in the line of fire after its flip-flopping over whether to abandon a couple of jingoistic songs played at the concert each year.

This storm in a musical teacup reveals a crisis of confidence at the top of the state broadcaster, just at the moment that its new director general, Tim Davie, takes his post. The BBC’s (exclusively white) senior executives are terrified of accusations of racism. But, under attack from Conservative politicians, they also need to prove they’re in touch with the values of the broad mass of the British population.

The public broadcaster’s floundering over the issue shows its increasingly awkward place in national life. If a U.S.-style culture war does engulf Britain, you can bet that this often beleaguered institution will be caught in the crossfire.

Held traditionally at Kensington’s Royal Albert Hall, the concerts feature renditions of “Rule, Britannia!” and “Land of Hope and Glory,” set to music by the English composers Thomas Arne and Edward Elgar. Audience members wave Union Jack flags (though defiant internationalists have been flourishing the stars of the European Union of late) and lustily sing the bombastic lyrics.

There were reports that the songs would be dropped from the program because of objections from Dalia Stasevska, the Finnish conductor of this year’s Last Night and a supporter of Black Lives Matter, although people close to her say it was a BBC decision. After an outcry over the tunes’ possible exclusion, the broadcaster says they’ll be played, but without the lyrics.

“Rule, Britannia!,” which dates from the rise of the country’s naval supremacy in the 1740s, includes the line that “Britons never, never, never shall be slaves” and another verse condemns “haughty tyrants.” “Land of Hope and Glory” is especially disliked because “the mother of the free” — the song’s description of Britain — ruled a vast unfree empire at the time of composition.

But the country’s national anthem, the dirge-like “God Save the Queen,” is hardly any better, with its talk of “scattering enemies” and confounding “knavish tricks.” That’s the thing about patriotic tunes: Most of them are embarrassing because they reflect an earlier time’s political consciousness and vocabulary. The French have taken to censoring the bloodthirsty words of “La Marseillaise.”

Nobody sings “Rule, Britannia!” in real life. It’s a relic whose significance lies in this one evening’s celebrated entertainment, while “Land of Hope and Glory” isn’t even belted out at Conservative Party conferences anymore. If the BBC really wants to be rid of them, it should have the courage of its convictions. Or else it should admit that this is a harmless annual tradition and explain the historical context of the songs.

When the story first appeared that the BBC intended to drop the tunes, a wildfire online petition instantly demanded their retention. Tory members of Parliament and right-wing newspapers happily joined the fray — any excuse to bash a public-service broadcaster that’s seen as a bastion of liberal woolliness.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson condemned the Beeb’s “cringing embarrassment about our history,” and even the Labour opposition dissociated itself from the corporation’s woke politics. Its new leader, Keir Starmer, knows that his predecessor Jeremy Corbyn’s lack of patriotism cost the party the votes of millions of white working-class people.

The (Black) former head of the U.K.’s Commission for Racial Equality, Trevor Phillips, also took a swipe. Phillips thinks Britain’s recent record on race isn’t that bad — “there is no history of long term ethnic segregation of the kind one can see in any U.S. city.” In his view, the BBC has a guilty conscience for failing to promote Black and Asian people to its top jobs. That guilt is expiated in gesture politics such as censoring songs.

This is unfortunate because, elsewhere in the organization, the BBC has a decent story to tell about its promotion of ethnic minorities. In front of camera and microphone, nearly 26% of its journalists are Black-Asian Minority Ethnic (BAME) people. That’s more than double their representation in other media organisations. Some 9% of BBC management is from BAME backgrounds.

The broadcaster’s ambition — and justification for the compulsory license fee that pays for its existence — is to serve all races, regions, classes and demographics while fostering a sense of national community. Sometimes it succeeds, as it did at the beginning of the coronavirus lockdown. But its preachiness can grate. The BBC’s reporting of the BLM movement, for instance, has been wholly uncritical. While its ethnic representation is diverse, the cultural assumptions and comfort zones of many of its journalists are uniform.

As a former BBC chairman Michael Grade admitted this week, the organization is often inclined to group-think. Outside London, many people see globalization and rapid change as a threat to national identity, but do the BBC’s London-based programs reflect that fear or even understand it? Too many of its journalists failed to understand the allure of Brexit. State services are often applauded automatically, while private enterprise is cast as the villain.

Davie says he sees the problem in these BBC biases. He wants his news and current affairs divisions to challenge assumptions and show more intellectual curiosity about the whole of the country.

But there’s an inherent problem in being a national broadcaster in such febrile cultural times: You’re damned whatever you do. Ban “Rule, Britannia!” and you’re a joyless social-justice warrior, allow it and you’re an insensitive purveyor of imperialist rabble-rousing. Davie needs to be firm and clear about which national oddities and quirks are worth preserving — and why. Sometimes that means facing the music, even if it’s “Land of Hope and Glory.”

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

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Martin Ivens at martinpaulivens@gmail.com

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
James Boxell at jboxell@bloomberg.net

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