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To: TerryKrohe who wrote (6442)1/29/1998 5:43:00 PM
From: Buck  Respond to of 26039
 
Terry, good calculations! I suspect that until more detail is released, there will be no possible way to come up with any figure that's even in the ball-park. Seems like everybody is hearing different figures for how many locations are really running!



To: TerryKrohe who wrote (6442)1/29/1998 5:57:00 PM
From: Hal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 26039
 
Fingerprint jitters--

Reprinted from AP:

Students Fingerprinted for Tests

.c The Associated Press

DETROIT (AP) - Parents and legal experts have identified a problem in Michigan standardized testing - 122,000 fifth-graders provided their fingerprints without permission.

All fifth-graders in Michigan's public schools had to fill out a ''Fingerprint Investigation Journal'' as part of the science segment on the Michigan Educational Assessment Program. State law says that with few exceptions, children's fingerprints can't be obtained without parents' permission.

''It's offensive,'' said Andrea Lang of St. Clair Shores, who learned that her 10-year-old daughter provided fingerprints for the test last week. ''It's an invasion of privacy. Only criminals get their fingerprints taken.''

The fingerprint journal was merely a hands-on experiment designed to make the science portion of the test more interesting, Peter Bunton of the MEAP office, said Wednesday.

''No, we are not fingerprinting kids and sending their prints to the FBI or filing them in Lansing,'' he said. The fingerprint journals, he added, are ''thrown away, torn up, discarded, or sent home with the kids.''

''The law doesn't care if you throw it away,'' said Kerry Morgan, a Taylor attorney who was contacted by one parent. ''It just says you can't do it.''

Robert Sedler, a Wayne State University law professor, agreed fingerprints should be disclosed only voluntarily or in limited criminal circumstances.

Bunton said he was unaware of the law.

''I'm very sorry parents may have misunderstood this,'' he said. ''We will not be doing anymore fingerprinting in a classroom ever again.''

MEAP tests are being administered statewide through Feb. 13. The fingerprint exercise will continue to be used in the current tests, but the segment will not be used in future tests, state Education Department spokeswoman Deb Small said today.



To: TerryKrohe who wrote (6442)1/29/1998 10:00:00 PM
From: brad greene  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 26039
 
Terry,

Let me take a stab at it.....

Identix moved it's contract fingerprinting business that does alot of work for the states of Illinois and Indiana into the Joint venture.

So there may have been two machines at Sylvan centers operating....but the mobile service units that travel around the states would have been operating also.....and their revenue in with the joint venture revenue. The entire state of Illinois can't be fingerprinting at only two locations.

I hope this works.....I know that Contract Fingerprint Division was handed over to the joint venture.

bg

ps. Very good news about being paid in Asia.....now we can shut down the offices there and save about $1.5 million per year........as there will be no business there for the next ten years. Kessler can now raise his estimates.