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To: pocotrader who wrote (1265938)10/3/2020 2:44:35 PM
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Trump’s Travail: A Virus That Thrives Indoors
The coronavirus can linger in the air in tiny particles. The president has disdained precautions in a variety of indoor settings.



By Apoorva Mandavilli

Oct. 2, 2020





On Saturday, President Trump met with Judge Amy Coney Barrett, the nominee to the Supreme Court, and others in the Oval Office. On Tuesday, he debated former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. in an indoor hall, neither with a mask, talking at high volume and often without pause.

On Wednesday, Mr. Trump traveled to and from Minnesota on Air Force One along with dozens of others. On Thursday, the president appeared indoors before hundreds of supporters at a golf club in Bedminster, N.J.

On none of these occasions was the president wearing a mask. Often, neither were many in the room or on the airplane with him. All in all, conditions like these are a recipe for so-called super-spreader events, in which a single infected person transmits the virus to dozens of others, research has shown.

“The White House has been flouting the basic rules of public health for a very long time,” said Dr. Ashish K. Jha, dean of the School of Public Health at Brown University in Providence, R.I. Regarding the president’s diagnosis that he was infected with the coronavirus, he added, “there are no surprises here.”

The problem is one scientists have been warning about for months: airborne transmission. In addition to the heavy droplets sneezed or coughed out by infected people, research has shown the coronavirus may drift in the air indoors, held aloft in tiny particles called aerosols.

Now the White House is trying to pin down exactly who had contact with Mr. Trump in recent days — and to whom these people in turn may have passed the virus. Potential contacts may number in the hundreds.

All of those people will have to be identified, tested and quarantined. “Rather than looking for a needle in a haystack, it’s like Trump is the needle and you’re trying to find out if it touched each piece of hay,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York.

Experts may never know how the president was infected or whom he may have infected. The Rev. John I. Jenkins, president of the University of Notre Dame, tested positive for the coronavirus after attending a White House ceremony on Saturday for Judge Barrett. So did Senator Mike Lee, Republican of Utah.

The timing raises the possibility that the president could have been infected over the weekend, scientists said. Most people develop symptoms about five days after being infected with the virus, so exposure over the weekend would fit with reports that the president was showing early symptoms on Wednesday and Thursday.

People are thought to be most contagious to others a day or two before the onset of symptoms.

“We know that presymptomatic transmission drives a significant amount of spread of this virus,” Dr. Rasmussen said. “The bottom line is that you can be contagious before you know you’re sick.”

The presidential debate in particular resembles other indoor events at which widespread transmission has been documented — a gathering in a contained environment in which an infected person is speaking, coughing or even singing in proximity to others.

Mr. Biden tested negative for the virus on Friday. Still, given that Mr. Biden was only recently exposed, “He should quarantine and get tested again,” Dr. Rasmussen said. (Mr. Biden said he would go ahead with a campaign event in Michigan planned for Friday.)

Others in the debate auditorium, too, may have been at risk.

Aerosols are expelled when people talk, shout, sing or breathe. The longer an infected person is in an indoor space, the greater the risk. Mr. Trump was in the debate hall for at least the 90-minute duration.

“He was doing a lot of talking, a lot of shouting,” said Linsey Marr, an expert in airborne transmission of diseases at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va.

The president and Mr. Biden were at lecterns more than six feet apart at the debate. At that distance, Mr. Biden might have had protection from larger respiratory droplets released by the president, but not from aerosols lingering in the air.

Indoors, aerosols may travel farther than six feet. In August, for example, scientists reported that they had successfully isolated live virus from aerosols collected at a distance of seven feet and 16 feet from an infected patient in a hospital.

Dr. Marr likened the aerosols released while talking or shouting to cigarette smoke. People closest to the smoker — like Mr. Biden and the moderator, Chris Wallace (who plans to take a test on Monday) — would have been exposed first.

But over time, the smoke in a poorly ventilated room will drift throughout the space and reach even those much farther away.

Anyone with a face covering would be at least partly protected from the virus. But most of Mr. Trump’s family members and associates did not wear a mask during the debate, despite requests by the venue hosts, the Cleveland Clinic, to do so.

“Now the question becomes, what is the ventilation?” Dr. Marr said.

Representatives of the Cleveland Clinic did not immediately respond to requests for information about ventilation in the debate room, placement of the lecterns and other details that may bear on whether the president may have infected others.

In a prepared statement, Halle Bishop Weston, a spokeswoman for the Cleveland Clinic, said Mr. Trump, Mr. Biden and people traveling with them had been tested for the virus by their campaigns, and were said to be negative. Everyone gaining entry to the debate hall had tested negative for the virus, she added.

Safety measures at the debate aligned with guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and included “social distancing, hand sanitizing, temperature checks and masking,” the statement said.

The debate was held in a large space with high ceilings, “so there is a lot of air into which infectious aerosol could be dispersed and diluted,” said William Bahnfleth, an architectural engineering expert at Penn State University in University Park, Pa.

“I’d imagine that the greatest risk at this event was due to some of the participants not masking and distancing,” he added. “The first lady would have been in the location most likely to pose risk to others in the audience.” (Mrs. Trump also tested positive for the coronavirus, according to an announcement early Friday.)

Several members of the Trump family did not wear masks during much of the debate. And experts noted that inadequate ventilation could have fostered spread of the virus.

“This is something that needs to be looked at in every indoor environment, be it schools, offices or certainly in a high-profile event like this,” said Joseph Allen, an expert on building safety at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

Ventilation becomes especially important when many people are gathered with an infected person for a long period.

“That’s exactly what we had at the debate,” Dr. Allen said. “The president was speaking often and loudly, for the full hour and a half.”

In addition to the debate, the president is likely to have spent time with his inner circle in other rooms, Dr. Allen added.

The C.D.C. has not fully acknowledged the risk of airborne transmission of the virus indoors, beyond indirect nods to the importance of ventilation in schools and businesses.

On Sept. 18, the C.D.C. published a new version of its guidance on how the virus spreads that acknowledged the importance of aerosols, and said inhalation of the virus was the main way the virus was transmitted.

Before that, the agency had emphasized hand hygiene, wearing face coverings and maintaining six feet of distance as the primary ways for people to protect themselves.

The version posted Sept. 18 also said that indoors, “there is growing evidence that droplets and airborne particles can remain suspended in the air and be breathed in by others, and travel distances beyond 6 feet (for example, during choir practice, in restaurants, or in fitness classes).”

But that guidance was removed from the agency’s site three days later and replaced with a document that no longer mentioned aerosols or airborne transmission. At the time, C.D.C. officials said the revised document had been posted in error and had not yet been cleared by rigorous scientific review.

But given the many recent reports of meddling by the White House and the administration in C.D.C. science, some public health experts feared that the agency had been ordered to take down the acknowledgment of aerosols and airborne transmission of the coronavirus.



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Here is your new leader TacoTraitor - Toronto lawyer Annamie Paul elected leader of the federal Green Party

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Paul is the first Black permanent leader of a major federal political party

John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Oct 03, 2020 5:00 PM ET | Last Updated: in 1 hour



Green Party Leadership | Special Coverage
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The Green Party of Canada is set to announce its new leader. Eight candidates are running for the top job after Elizabeth May stepped down last fall. 0:00

Green Party members have picked Toronto lawyer Annamie Paul as their next leader, bringing to a close the year-long race to replace Elizabeth May.

Paul, who is Black and Jewish, was the perceived frontrunner heading into the final vote because she had raised the most money — $206,000 — and racked up a number of endorsements from former Green Party candidates.

Paul, who is the first permanent Black leader of a major federal political party in Canada, assumes the leadership of a party that has been closely tied to May for the better part of the last 14 years.

Before handing the job to Paul, May delivered an impassioned plea to Canadians to do more to address the climate "crisis," saying the ongoing fight against COVID-19 can't distract from pressing environmental concerns.

Paul, who was born in Canada to Caribbean immigrants, claimed victory with 12,090 votes against her closest competitor, Dimitri Lascaris, another lawyer and a self-described radical and "eco-socialist," who had 10,081 votes after eight rounds of voting.

A party official said 23,877 Green voters cast a ballot in this race — a 69 per cent turnout.

Paul, one of the more moderate candidates who contested this leadership election, ran on a robust environmental agenda that she says will help Canada fight climate change, which she has called "an existential threat to human life."

Paul ran under the Green banner in the last federal election but placed a distant fourth to former Liberal finance minister Bill Morneau.

While she didn't win, Paul did manage to grow the Green vote in the solidly Liberal seat.

Paul has already been nominated to run in the Oct. 26 byelection in that riding after Morneau's abrupt resignation. Another Black woman, former television personality Marci Ien, is running for the Liberals.



Annamie Paul is the new leader of the Green Party - the first Black permanent leader of a major federal party in Canada. (Vedran Lesic/ Radio-Canada)

Beyond strengthening the existing federal carbon tax, Paul has called for a carbon border adjustment, a tax on imported goods based on how many emissions were associated with producing those goods in countries abroad.

She has also promised a national ban on fracking — a controversial practice used to unearth oil and gas — and said the country should curb mining, a practice she has called wasteful. She has promised to go further and faster in the push to reduce emissions.

In addition to climate policy, Paul has said she wants to tackle systemic racism in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), establish a "citizen's assembly" to begin the process of introducing proportional representation in Canada's voting system, implement a guaranteed livable income and a universal pharmacare program, among other progressive policies.

Lascaris ran on a platform to push the party to the far left with a plan to defund the police — and "create a society in which the police are unnecessary and can be abolished" — dramatically decrease military spending and implement a wealth "cap" to do away with billionaires in Canada.

Paul also beat six other candidates who were vying for the job — David Merner, Amita Kuttner, Glen Murray, Meryam Haddad, Andrew West and Dr. Courtney Howard — easily the most racially and ideologically diverse group of candidates to compete in a federal leadership race.

Historic victoryPaul, a graduate of Princeton University and the University of Ottawa, was the subject of racist and anti-semitic attacks during this campaign.

At a virtual town hall, commenters used the word 'N' several times and referred to her and another candidate as a 'f-ing Jew' in a live chat.

Paul is the first Black permanent leader of a major federal party and only the second Jewish person to hold such a job; former NDP leader David Lewis was the first. Paul has said there needs to better representation of Black, Indigenous and people of colour in Canadian politics.

Because of COVID-19 restrictions, the party held the vote online and the 36,000 Green Party members had a week to cast their ballot for one of the eight contenders.

Before jumping into federal politics, Paul worked as an advisor at the International Criminal Court in The Hague and as a political officer in Canada's Mission to the European Union in Brussels.

She has also advised a number of international non-governmental organizations, including the Climate Infrastructure Partnership and Higher Education Alliance for Refugees. Before running for the top job, Paul was the party's international affairs critic.

The leadership race was prompted by May's decision to step down as party leader last November.

Since assuming the leadership in August 2006, she has taken the party from the political fringe to the mainstream.

After years of being shut out because of poor polling numbers, May lobbied the broadcast consortium behind the leaders' debates to give the Greens a podium and the chance to pitch a left-wing environmental agenda to voters.

May's inclusion in these well-watched debates helped the party post its best electoral result ever in the 2008 federal election — capturing 6.8 per cent of ballots cast.

For the next leader of the Greens, the hard part comes next

But it was her 2011 victory in the B.C. riding of Saanich—Gulf Islands that truly bolstered the party's fortunes, as it gave May a seat in Parliament and a larger platform to advance the Green cause.

Since then, the Greens have won provincial seats in B.C., Ontario and New Brunswick and have formed the official opposition in P.E.I.

May is among Parliament's most ardent critics of oil and gas pipelines and the country's natural resources sector. She has also pushed for universal pharmacare, a guaranteed basic income and more decorum in the Commons.



Green Party members elected their new leader almost a year after Elizabeth May resigned from the position after 16 years at the helm. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

Until her resignation, she was the longest-serving active leader of a party with seats in either the Commons or a provincial legislature.

In announcing her departure, May said she promised her daughter that the 2019 race would be her last, but she has said she will stay on as an MP and the party's parliamentary leader.

Under May's leadership in that 2019 campaign, the Greens produced a relatively strong showing of 6.55 per cent of the popular vote but failed to win more than a few seats.

Much of the party's support was concentrated on Vancouver Island and other parts of British Columbia.

However, New Brunswick MP Jenica Atwin also bested a Liberal incumbent to win her Fredericton seat, the first federal Green victory in the Maritimes.

At the outset of the last two elections, May has predicted that at least a dozen seats would go to the Green Party, but those results never materialized.

May was also dogged by questions about whether she would allow Green MPs to introduce anti-abortion legislation — she said she wouldn't whip her caucus or forbid MPs from advancing these sort of bills — and faced criticism after the party ran candidates with known anti-abortion views.