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To: robert b furman who wrote (32056)	10/15/2020 11:03:30 AM
From: Logain Ablar	1 Recommendation Recommended By Berk Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50768

Bob: You are missing one point often overlooked. Back in 2012 there were numerous reports of vote impropriety. Broward county where they were filling in ballots prior to election, numerous cities where monitors were not allowed come to mind. In 2016 the Queen Bee was so far ahead in the polls the effort was not put into this. This year we are seeing it in spades. The fraud in this election cycle is going to be significant and by having Biden with such a large lead in the polls they will be able to sell it. This is a set up for disaster. Hope I am just being too pessimistic.

To: robert b furman who wrote (32056)	10/15/2020 11:03:35 AM
From: GUNSNGOLD	3 Recommendations Recommended By Hugh Bett robert b furman roguedolphin Respond to of 50768

Bob, Yes I agree there is panic, however they know that they can't win at the ballot box but are going to have to cheat. I believe they are trying to tie up the election for up to two years in lawsuits and therefore effectively block Trumps second term initiatives just like they did in the first term with the Russia hoax. The only way to overcome this is for everyone in the country that can vote to show up in person. Yes the war is finally being joined however don't underestimate their cheating ability. They have been working this for over 100 years and this may be the just the opening salvo or possibility the coup de grace if it is overwhelmingly for Trump. However the Fourth Turning perspective is this just the beginning of the end and we still have about 10yrs of this to go before it is resolved. Your optimism is valid based on the fact that the Trump supporters (myself included) would walk through a flamethrower while covered in gasoline to vote for him now. But I am gravely concerned that now we have two Americas now and neither side is willing to compromise. The only way to deal with the Left is to fight the way they do. Unfortunately most people are sheep and very few are sheepdogs. The only event that hasn't happened and I believe we will be there soon is some type of event that involves members of Congress getting into a physical altercation on the House Floor or the Well of the Senate. Once this happens it is game on for everyone. Ask your self what will you do and what will your neighbors do when this event occurs? People haven't had to make the hard choice yet. It is still all talk. Again, when the currency collapses people will vote for whoever promises them the most. Unfortunately the American people have become so addicted to federal reserve notes that it clouds their Constitutional senses. Cautiously optimistic but keeping my powder dry. G-n-G

To: robert b furman who wrote (32056)	10/15/2020 12:32:17 PM
From: isopatch	3 Recommendations Recommended By prometheus1976 roguedolphin sixty2nds Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50768

Oh my gosh, Bob. Never asked anyone on SI to change or take down a post in the 15 min. edit window. . Your opinions are worth my reading them for many reasons, agree or not. Key question for me is always what to be optimistic about. Per years of posts, long ago concluded, the most positive thing in our future is local governance, business & investing. Comparable large centralized national institutions have been in slow decline for decades. Recent acceleration since Bush/Obama years caught my attention. The acceleration went parabolic this year with growing exodus from collapsing dark blue cities & near by blurbs, even acknowledged by MSM. We all know some local areas are offer more favorable factors than others. After a lot of research & over a year of searching, we bot this place in 2008. Slider moved to the Ozarks. Another good low population area with very favorable small local spots. There're other regions. Just no time to elaborate in a web post. All the best, my friend. Keep posting. I'll add my 2 bits here & there...)) Iso