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To: koan who wrote (455503)	10/18/2020 4:06:11 PM
From: Guardian	7 Recommendations Recommended By abuelita cosmicforce epicure Ivan Inkling koan and 2 more members Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542904

It's very challenging in this moment of evolving history to see the forest from a future possibility and not from within its canopy, but I'd like to suggest one such scenario if Biden does win the presidency: That all of the people who have died from Covid be memorialized as having not died in vain. Why? Because they will have saved democracy in a way no less significant than the citizens who gave their lives fighting in WWII. Just a thought.

To: koan who wrote (455503)	10/18/2020 4:11:52 PM
From: cosmicforce	1 Recommendation Recommended By koan Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542904

<maintained the integrity of the thread> It would be like opening the door on an Evolution discussion group to Young Earthers and Creationists - there is little coming from the RW that has any political or social merit IMO - there used to be sane "conservatives" that wanted to conserve things - what are the RW conserving these days? When they cross the Trumpy-Con Qanon Rubicon they lost all credibility. Seriously - if the D's were embracing fantasists and telling our ranks to worship crystals and listen to sitar music 24 / 7 I'd tell them to get stuffed too. Let's float some ideas that are testable and start small - have a lot of different programs that are open, transparent and accountable. They need something like a scientific proposal - goals, methods, metrics and peer review. Nothing the RW has to offer is anything but mean-spirited crap. When they stop having their head up their asses - I'll talk with them again - they need to move to the center because if I'm "Left" - then Center has moved so far to the Right that we are lost. I'm actually not very far left compared to people in the past. I served in the military. I have a corporate job. I'm scientific. I believe in Civil Rights and the right to redress ones grievances. Pretty basic Bill of Rights shit. Heck I even own guns. There are lots of groups that just wouldn't be advanced by hare-brained theories. Fusion, aviation, chemistry - there is no room for magical thinkers in rational discussion. Have all the talks with ones invisible friend they want - but it can't come to the table with only those principles when there is a plurality of belief. Everything has to be subject to a rational review and defense by the advocates.

To: koan who wrote (455503)	10/18/2020 4:14:58 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542904

I want this at the top so people can see it: Physicist Arvin Ash thinks the universe records everything. I took a long bike ride today and feel invigorated-lol, so---OT esoteria. If one has the curiosity to wonder about our universe and reality, one has to study quantum physics. They don't need to know any equations, or math. Youtube has plenty of lectures. I watch several every week. I understand very little of what they are saying, but I keep watching to put the information in my brain so better brains inside me can use it. So that brings me to this. The most amazing experiment and maybe most important is the "double slit experiment". In short when they shoot a particle through two slits, if NO one is measuring it, or observing it, it will go through both slits as a wave e.g. one particle will go through both slits at the same time!-lol. BUT if anyone tries to measure it, or observe it, doing that will collapse the wave function, and it will go through one slit or the other. This experiment has been done a zillion times and NO one has ever been able to measure it, see it, or trick it. And it has been a mystery for everyone---but modern science may be getting a handle on this weird phenomenon. One is inductive logic and the other is deductive logic--I think-lol. I will post videos for each. First inductive. New experiments shows consciousness effects matter i.e. can collapse quantum wave action. Second is by Arvin Ash explaining why you can do this with a particle, but not large things. The largest being a molecule. So far.