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To: Alan Buckley who wrote (4872)1/30/1998 6:18:00 PM
From: X-Ray Man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Just don't agree with:

"dominating markets by delivering better value than others."

but agree that:

"It is an aggressive, productive company dominating markets".

I believe it does so by its business practices and marketing
saavy, and not by virtue of better product or value, except
in as much as most people by a product today because it is
the defacto "standard" because of existing market share. Simple
positive feedback system, that may well preclude competition
with better products from entering market. I hear this all the
time from MSFT clients - it ain't the best, but its the standard,
or its competitors might go out of business.

Precisely the sort of situation anti-trust laws are to help
avoid. But this situation is different, because the consumer
themselves choose to avoid other products just because they
are from another vendor. Defacto lack of competition. Unclear
how DOJ should respond. Knock out one or two of the remaining
fringe competitors for OS, for example, and DOJ has a case to
regulate the monopoly. Getting close to that for Office, too.
Very strange... Can't claim competition is keeping down price,
because margins are excessively high compared to both competitors
and other computer products. If their were a true competitor to
Office, it would be selling for a fraction of current price.

JMO



To: Alan Buckley who wrote (4872)1/30/1998 8:02:00 PM
From: K. M. Strickler  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Good approach! In my arguments, I say that MSFT doesn't make the best software, they make the second best! I give 10 points to the best, and 5 points to the second best. Next I make a list of the software available and it goes like this:

UNIX op sys - 10 : MSFT op sys - 5
LOTUS - 10 : MSFT - 5
BORLAND - 10 : MSFT - 5
COREL - 10 : MSFT - 5

etc.

The totals just based on the above 4 are:

UNIX - 10
LOTUS - 10
BORLAND - 10
COREL - 10

MSFT - 20 (4x5)

For me it isn't that MSFT is necessarily the best all of the time, the lead changes with each new release, but MSFT is EVERYWHERE and their packages seem to integrate to 'their' operating system pretty well.

Does this make any sense?

Ken



To: Alan Buckley who wrote (4872)1/31/1998 1:33:00 PM
From: Andy Thomas  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
>>MSFT is not a fat, lazy, non-productive company dominating a market by blocking others from delivering value. It is an aggressive, productive company dominating markets by delivering better value than others. <<

That's right. It never ceases to amaze me how people are so jealous of the success of others. If someone wants to beat MSFT maybe they should learn to be enthusiastic and hard-working, the way so many MSFT employees are.

FWIW
Andy