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To: Street Walker who wrote (76)	1/31/1998 5:40:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Respond to of 14778

ESC Warranty My first preference is to purchase a product for which I will not have to exercise any warranty options ESC seems to be a reputable outfit (my impression from their web page) They take returns for dead on arrival and for other reasons. There doesn't seem to be one warranty policy. They appear to be some type of wholsale distributor and try to direct you back to the manufacturer for warranty. They seem rather selective in the components they carry, fewer components but of a higher quality. They sell some individually but others such as the CD ROM only if it is in an installation. They seem to specialize in the guts..Motherboard, case, CPU and RAM. My fear is that if I buy an ABIT LX6 from a broad based discounter they will pull the old revision off the shelf and put me in a position of having to return it. Here are some exerts from the warranty page Regards Zeuspaul esc-ca.com 1. Warranties are valid for the original purchaser only. 2. Manufacturers are responsible for all technical support and warranties of their products. Prices do not include technical support by ESC Technologies. 3. Prices are set at the time of order, regardless of price fluctuations. 4. Brokered, Intel and AMD CPUs carry a 1-year warranty provided by ESC Technologies when purchased with a proper cooling fan. Your sales order will serve as your product registration. 5. All memory is new. ESC honors a 1-year, limited warranty on generic memory. 6. Products carry a 20-day money back policy, excluding shipping, handling, and processing fees (15%). All products returned must be in resellable condition, including all documentation and accessories. Do not write in the motherboard manuals, on boxes, or on certificates. 7. If an item is returned to us as if it was defective, and an ESC Technician determines that everything is fine, the product will be returned to you at your cost. Check their website for the rest of the warranty information

To: Street Walker who wrote (76)	1/31/1998 7:33:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 14778

SPD SDRAM. Does Corsair Grade A solve these problems? I don't know. It is still hard to figure out what the problem is. The industry doesn't seem to have standardized yet(most likely this is "the problem"). I don't think it is possible to get RAM that will extend very far into the future. RDRAM in 1999? If the compatibility issue is incorrect EPROM programming then one would think that the grade A tested RAM would solve the problem. I am trying to find out if the ABIT LX6 will work regardless of the EPROM. Since we are working with cutting edge or near cutting edge technology I believe it is prudent to have the RAM installed and tested on the motherboard before you take possession. This solves the immediate problem but does not address moving the RAM to a future board. This is why I am looking for RAM from a reputable manufacturer. again from the ESC site >>Corsair Microsystemshonors a lifetime warranty on their Grade A memory.<< esctechnologies.com >>All memory components go through a series of tests. Those components that pass these tests are Grade A components. They meet memory and motherboard manufacturer specifications. These Grade A components are the highest quality. Those that fail the first set of tests are categorized as Grade B, then tested again. If they fail tests in this category, they are passed on to another category. These lower quality components are frequently sold in the generic memory market. They may be of a variety of manufacturers.<< esc-ca.com Advantage and Micron memory is also available at the ESC site. I have heard Micron mentioned as "the best" and have also heard good reports on advantage memory. For the moment Corsair is my first best guess and I will spend time trying to bump it from the best guess position. I like to use something as a reference as it makes it easier to compare. One thing I will look for is users of the selected RAM in the selected motherboard. I do not want to be the first. Regards Zeuspaul

To: Street Walker who wrote (76)	1/31/1998 7:56:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Respond to of 14778

>>Number 9 Revolution Card: its a great card, the one you had initially also looks like a good contender. << I am still torn between the Matrox Millenium II and the Nine Revolution 3D. I like the higher resolution and higher refresh rates of the Millenium card. I like the virtual resolution capability of Revolution 3D. The Revolution 3D fits the bill for a good all around card while I wait for something better. Matrox will give me 3D but I will lose a slot,a high price to pay. I don't do anything on my computer that requires 3D. I Spend too much time on SI and don't have time to play games. I also believe that 3D is young technology and will change quickly so $ spent on 3D will be wasted. I am tempted by the Matrox video daughter card upgrade. This would require considerable expense with the need for bigger and faster, most likely SCSI harddrives. With the full towere I wil have room. Regards Zeuspaul

To: Street Walker who wrote (76)	1/31/1998 8:43:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Respond to of 14778

More on SPD SDRAM. This is an email response to a question I posted on the system optimization forum >>You can pretty much be assured that if the ram is a namebrand ram (not generic), then it will work very well. People are serious about this kind of thing. Check www.pcboost.com for the ram prices, they have the lowest ram prices and the very good namebrand ram, with explanations. good luck<< sysopt.com Regards Zeuspaul Here was my question A motherboard manufacturer ( it wasn't ABIT) indicated to me that upon testing they discovered that some eproms were incorrectly programmed. They indicated that this may cause some boards to lock up. My question: Is there a way in the ABIT LX6 to use SPD SDRAM if the EPROM is incorrect? Would one be able to adjust settings in the bios and bypass the info on the eprom if it is incorrect? : I have never put a machine together before but trying to figure out what kind of RAM to get is a bit of a stumbling block. I haven't purchased any parts yet. One thing I am looking for in a motherboard is the ability to use different types of RAM. I plan on buying a lot of RAM so I want RAM that I can move forward (hopefully) into the next upgrade of my motherboard. How would one determine if the EPROM is correctly programmed? : Thanks for any help

To: Street Walker who wrote (76)	1/31/1998 9:30:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Respond to of 14778

SDRAM Corsair indicates that they will have SDRAM available for the Intel BX chipset in early February. This chipset will support the 100Mz bus speed which is supposed to be a significant improvement, "unleashing the capability of AGP". They indicate that your current SDRAM will probably not work with this chipset. If the SDRAM for the Intel BX chipset works in todays LX motherboards then it would be wise to opt for the BX compatible SDRAM even if it costs a little more. Onward Zeuspaul From the Corsair website >>The new Intel PC100 SDRAM module specification (Version 0.9) has been released. This new specification is the latest module design to support the Intel BX Chipset and the new motherboards which support a 100MHz bus. The new Intel BX chipset motherboards should only use Intel PC100MHz modules. Due to the strict timing issues involved when operating at 100MHz, most systems will not even boot if non-compliant modules are used. Even if the system does boot, changes to the operating environment such as temperature or certain hardware applications will severely impact the reliability of the memory.<< corsairmicro.com