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To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)1/31/1998 5:16:00 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2120
 
Ken, I have been quietly reading this thread since it's beginning. I just want to say, I appreciate you taking the time and energy to explain the many disciplines of your craft.

I would be willing to bet there are many more like me on SI who feel the same way.

Take Care, Michael



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)1/31/1998 5:21:00 PM
From: Tai Jin  Respond to of 2120
 
Ken, excellent commentary!

You could've been describing me, except that I was never taught daytrading. It really is a matter of discipline. I've looked at $500 unrealized gains and didn't do anything only to see it turn into a loss. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth when that happens, and the emotions start to play havoc with your decisions.

...tai



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)1/31/1998 6:46:00 PM
From: Joe W.  Respond to of 2120
 
Ken, Great advice... please keep it coming

I'm learning a lot from your posts and others on this thread.

Thanks.



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)1/31/1998 9:48:00 PM
From: KZAP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2120
 
Ken,

Thanks for your posting. I have done the same things you have
described. And am caught in a couple right now. I'm even
sitting on 25% waiting for more. Of course, I'm not really a day
trader. I don't know what kind of a trader I would be considered.
I guess I'm long on about everything. I know of what I have
now, there will be some winners and some losers. I want to get
out of a few but refuse to take the loss yet.
Waiting on momentum.

Thanks!

KZAP



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)2/1/1998 5:17:00 AM
From: Tracker  Respond to of 2120
 
Ken, That is one on the most inteligent post I have seen on SI. For those just starting out daytrading, you have giving them years worth of advise. Thanks for sharing your imput.

Tracker



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)2/1/1998 7:36:00 AM
From: TraderRick  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2120
 
Ken

I've followed this thread from the begining and have learned I'm sure years worth of experience in the hours I've spent reading and re-reading your and the others valuable information. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to share your wisdom. At times is seems that you must have been looking over my shoulder when you describe the mistakes that undisiplined traders make. I guess I'm glad I'm not the only one that has let my emotions turn a small loss into a catastrophy. I've just signed up with SI and am looking forward to interaction with you and the rest of the group.

Thanks again.

TraderRick



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)2/3/1998 1:14:00 AM
From: freelyhovering  Respond to of 2120
 
Great post! Myron



To: Ken Wolff who wrote (421)2/7/1998 11:36:00 AM
From: David Smith  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2120
 
I think your post was extremely well thought-out, and I agree with almost all of it. If someone told me they were going to quit their job and become a full-time daytrader, I would first say "don't" (having made the progression from daytrader to dealer, I know how difficult the former can be without the experience of the latter). But if one is determined to be a full-time daytrader, or at least spend a large amount of leisure time playing in the market while keeping a full-time job, my one piece of advice would be this: it is far, far better to try to hit singles than homeruns. It's useful (and appropriate) to imagine yourself as a batter going up to the plate against a major league pitcher. In this scenario, if striking out is equivalent to losing money on a trade, and finding a way to get on base is equivalent to making a profitable trade, which of the following courses of action do you think would afford the best probability of 1) getting on base, 2) possibly coming home to score, and 3) staying on the team over the long haul....swinging for the fence every time, or sticking your bat in front of the ball and just trying to find a way...anyway...to get on base? Against a major league pitcher, the latter is obviously the path to survival.

The same approach applies when trading. Believe it or not, the best market makers have the same strategy; they're trading in the same market as the daytrader, and realize that hitting singles consistently is far preferable to going for the homerun. For the daytrader, this strategy can manifest itself in many of the same ways it does for the dealer, and in many of the ways you mentioned in your post. This strategy is most certainly NOT manifest in the approach of those who seem to think that trading is like stepping up to a blackjack table. It's always amusing (and somewhat saddening) to read a post from someone about a $2 stock they're ready to put their IRA money into, and in the next sentence mention that they just got back from Las Vegas. To the extent that the stock market is a zero-sum game, this type of person pays everyone else's rent.