To: teevee who wrote (737900 ) 1/14/2021 11:15:55 AM From: Shoot1st Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793843 Hornady has come a long way over the last 10 or so years. They make some of the most consistently accurate ammo and bullets available at reasonable prices. They seem to perform better than the Sierra Match King bullets. When you make your own ammo you can weigh the cases for a consistent batch, weigh the bullets, weigh the powder, choose the powder, choose and seat the primers, set the case length to chamber specs, set the overall length for distance to the rifling, crimp the bullets to your liking, check for concentricity, resize the case for full length, neck or just a shoulder bump......all of these things add to potential accuracy. In the old days factory ammo was pretty much crap unless you bought the best stuff like Weatherby, Norma, Eley, The traditional Winchester and Remington was good up to about 200 yards and then the groups opened to basketball size. My 1st 26/06 made by Remington loaded with IMR 4831, Winchester cases, neck sized, 90 gr. sierra hpbt set to the lands would group 3/8 inch for 5 shots at 100 yards. No factory ammo on the planet could do that in the 70's or 80's. It's made much better today. But, you pay 4 times the price over handloads. All guns are a bit different in tolerances and often you have to try several ammo's to match the twist rate of the barrel, the headspace, magazine depth and overall length. Probably the most important issue is twist rate. The twist rate determines the weight and length of the actual bullet and how it will stabilize through the barrel when fired. The 140 gr. that your buddy uses likely matches well to the twist rate where if he were shooting a 110 or 130 gr. bullet it might not stabilize as well and the groups will open up. Picture the quarterback moving his hand to several locations on the ball. The right grip and he gets a great long range spiral, the wrong grip and he gets the ball end over end out to 10 yards. Shootie