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To: carranza2 who wrote (167772)1/29/2021 3:32:28 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219848
 
I needed silver

the timing is coincidental

however I certainly did not wish the silver train to turn into a rocket w/o me

can it blowup and go to 18? sure

so can everything else.

can it go to zero like GME might? no, silver cannot.

Can it 5X like GME did? sure.

two brothers and some desert people got silver to ramp once.

In the meantime,

zerohedge.com

JPMorgan Has Some Bad News For Hedge Funds Hoping The Nightmare Ends Soon

For a few hours this morning it seemed that all was lost for r/WallStreetBets and their crusade to teach Wall Street billionaires a lesson, when one exchange after another banned buying in the most-shorted stocks, an unprecedented unilateral decision made by brokerages (one of which, Robinhood, is effectively joined at the hip with hedge fund Citadel, which in turn is a part owner of Melvin Capital which was destroyed by the short squeeze that Robinhood banned, so a clear conflict of interest), and one which sent GME stock as low as $112 after trading at $500 just hours earlier.

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However the hedge funds short Gamestop, who may have declared victory prematurely, had to put the champagne back on ice because just after the close, amid tremendous pushback from clients, Congress, and the public - not to mention what appears to be a liquidity crisis as millions of accounts bailed - Robinhood announced it would allow buying to resume on Friday, sending the stock up almost double after hours.

And since any victory for the WallStreetBets crowd means the short squeeze is back, it also means that a defeat for hedge funds, as can be seen in the chart below which shows that the Goldman most shorted basket is a mirror image of the Goldman hedge fund VIP basket.

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In other words, any expectation that the WSB crowd would be finally crushed today and the hedge fund world would return to normalcy was crushed.

But what happens next, and how does it all end?

Last night we speculated that if indeed there are more shorts - both synthetically or otherwise - than available shares, then the only place bearish hedge funds will be get shares to cover their shorts is from the company itself. Which means that Gamestop can theoretically ask for any price (somewhat reasonable) and hedge funds will have to agree. After all, it's not GME's fault that hedge funds were so greedy they overshorted the company, which really is what all this boils down to.

Of course, that is a bit of an idealistic take, one where hedge funds finally are forced to pay for their stupidity. Alas, in a country as corrupt as this one, that's unlikely to ever happen. Still, that doesn't change the fact that the answer suddenly matters extremely.

In fact, as JPM's Andrew Tyler writes in his EOD market intelligence note, "Are we there yet" -i.e., is the squeeze over - is "the biggest question and hardest to answer definitively."

Here is his take.






To: carranza2 who wrote (167772)1/29/2021 5:21:21 AM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation

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Hello C2 the lawyer, it would seem that the hedge fund industry designed and built a beautiful roach muppet hotel where the muppets check in but they do not check out.

The muppet hotel gets to sell the flow data, direct the float, and if the receivers of the customer data causes a problem w/ trading on the flow, shut down the trading, and should shutdown not work, complain to Capitol Hill and angle for a bailout, and presumably, if a bailout fails to materialise or work, then do effective bail-in by doing investigation that demonstrate that the money vaporised.

Have I understood the setup correctly?

Had I not gotten out of the GME trade I concocted with the long / short and rolling options and 'they' shut down trading, unclear what would have happened, but am sure would be peeved, miffed, or angry as heck

(Bloomberg) -- Frustrated investors who sued after getting locked out of trading in frenzied shares like GameStop Corp. aren’t likely to have much luck in court either.

Online brokerage Robinhood Markets was named as a defendant Thursday in several federal suits demanding it reinstate trading of shares including GameStop, BlackBerry Ltd., Nokia Oyj and AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc. Just hours earlier, Robinhood, Interactive Brokers and others took steps to curtail activity in the high-flying stocks after several dizzying days of trading on their platforms whipped up volatility.


While users of the trading platforms claim in court filings that they suffered losses from the restrictions, legal experts say brokerages have broad powers to block or restrict transactions -- all of which is spelled out as part of customer agreements everyone signs to gain access to the services.


“I’m looking at the Robinhood contract, and it says in black and white they can block or restrict trades at any time,” said Jeff Erez, who runs a Miami-based law firm specializing in securities-fraud litigation and represents plaintiffs in a lawsuit filed last year against Robinhood related to service disruptions. “I’m not aware of any law that would guarantee you a right to purchase a certain security at a certain brokerage firm.”

Maverick Traders

The legal fight comes after a group of maverick, digitally oriented traders who gather in Reddit’s WallStreetBets forum sent shares of GameStop and other companies soaring, with the apparent goal of earning millions of dollars in profits and causing billions in losses to hedge funds that were shorting the stocks.


In a lawsuit filed in New York, Robinhood user Brendon Nelson of Massachusetts said the company removed GameStop from its trading platform in the midst of an “unprecedented stock rise,” depriving individual investors of the ability to invest and manipulating the market. The decision was a breach of its customer agreement and was in violation of financial industry rules, according to the complaint.
Read More: Robinhood Users Are Furious Over Its Stock- Trading Clampdown In a Chicago lawsuit, Robinhood user Richard Joseph Gatz of Naperville, Illinois, said the halt of trading in BlackBerry, Nokia and AMC “was to protect institutional investment at the detriment of retail customers” and is in “lockstep” with other trading platforms. “The halt of retail trading for these stocks has caused irreparable harm and will continue to do so,” Gatz said.



Other client suits were filed in Florida, California and New Jersey. And New York Attorney General Letitia James said her office is “aware of concerns raised regarding activity on the Robinhood app, including trading related to the GameStop stock. We are reviewing this matter.”


Robinhood didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on the suits. The company has faced criticism in the past for allowing relatively unsophisticated investors to engage in risky trades that resulted in massive losses, and some commentators have expressed concern about the losses that individual investors are likely to suffer when the Reddit-driven bubbles burst.

In an interview on CNBC, Robinhood Chief Executive Officer Vlad Tenev said the company had limited some buying “to protect the firm and protect our customers” and that no market makers or hedge funds had directed the trading limits. Robinhood said it may allow limited buying of some of the securities starting Friday.


In a blog post Thursday, the company said its financial requirements as a brokerage firm “exist to protect investors and the markets, and we take our responsibilities to comply with them seriously, including through the measures we have taken today.”

Broad Discretion

Brokerages are permitted broad discretion in limiting trades to provide flexibility in handling unusual situations like technical glitches, mechanical errors and mistakes, or to preserve an orderly market, said Columbia Law School professor Joshua Mitts, who specializes in corporate law.


“There is no obligation that a broker-dealer has to unconditionally accept orders to buy, sell or short-sell securities,” said Cam Funkhouser, a former executive at the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, a Wall Street-backed regulator that oversees broker-dealers. “If they do accept orders, it is expected that the transaction is executed and settled in compliance with the applicable rules,” said Funkhouser, who worked at Finra for 35 years and oversaw its national fraud-detection office.


The lawsuits “are likely subject to dismissal based on customer agreement language,” said Elliott Stein, a senior litigation analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence.


“It is understandable that many investors are upset by the sudden restrictions to trade certain stocks,” especially if they didn’t read the user agreements very carefully, said Tom Lin, a law professor at Temple University’s Beasley School of Law whose specialties include securities regulation. “Whether brokerages should exercise that power in the current circumstances is up for legitimate debate. There is likely so much more to this story than we know at the moment.”

Depends on Situation

Still, while user agreements “tend to be pretty broad” in allowing brokerages to decline working with anyone, they aren’t always an absolute protection from aggrieved clients, said Timothy Blood, a partner with Blood Hurts & O’Reardon in San Diego, who has represented investors in disputes with brokerages.


“It’s going to depend on the particular situation that arises,” Blood said.
There might be liability if a brokerage allows trades by some clients but not others, especially if the one being denied needs access to the market to complete a longer-term strategy with additional trades, Blood said.


“If a long-term plan gets cut off midstream, the clause helps Robinhood but won’t be the last word on the issue,” he said.

Double Standard?

“I think it’s extraordinarily rare for brokers to halt that trading” without a determination by regulators that it was necessary, said Adam Gana at the national securities-arbitration law firm Gana Weinstein.


The surge in share prices was the result of “a band of investors getting together to purchase a security,” not some “insider collusion pumping up the price,” he said. The filing of lawsuits “tells me that the broker-dealers who stopped trading by their own volition are potentially going to be in a lot of trouble -- both on a regulatory level and on a civil-litigation level,” he said.


While Robinhood’s customer agreement clearly states that it can suspend trading at any time, it does raise questions about whether the platform treated some users differently than others, especially after cases in the past decade of market manipulation by short sellers that disadvantaged retail investors, said Mitts, the Columbia Law School professor.


“When hedge funds are going to lose from a trading suspension, they don’t face any lockup like this, any suspension, any halt at the retail level,” Mitts said. “But when retail investors find themselves locked in, they find themselves unable to exit the trade.”



To: carranza2 who wrote (167772)1/31/2021 7:45:43 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219848
 
C2, following up re Message 33169838

<<Meantime let’s see what if anything the cyber rebellion can do. If they cannot move the price of silver the way they do GME and BTC, then the insurrection is not yet ready for the main performance, but should they managed to move the needle irrespective of the details of how, then all have much to fear.>>


Message 33174938
<<silver puppy barking hard, Asia open
front page of Bloomberg, for front-runners
the chart looks piercing, ala 30 by tonight looking doable
For fear is infectious, and terror is scary>>

... and downside seems limited as of right now. The fear ought to be on the other side for now, that fear is a survival trait.

The below Bloomberg take still doesn't get it, that it may no longer be about a rag tag Reddit insurrection, extinguishable by any or every combination of Fed, SEC, Capitol Hill, Potus, USA exchanges, and puny hedge funds, and small JPM

It might be titans behind millions of savings-aplenty global proletariats who do not wish to be QE-ed, and so aim to melvin (love the new verb) their tormentors.

bloomberg.com

Reddit Investors Piling Into Silver Drive Up Prices a Second Day
Eddie Spence



A one-kilogram silver bar.

Photographer: Chris Ratcliffe/Bloomberg
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Silver jumped for a second day as the market remains on high alert after a call by Reddit posters to create a short squeeze sparked sharp moves on Thursday.

Spot silver rose as much as 4.3% as prices resumed an earlier climb after dollar gains eased. Silver futures increased as much as 7.1% on the Comex, and gold prices advanced.

On Thursday, silver miners’ shares spiked and the largest silver exchange-traded fund, iShares Silver Trust, saw a frenzy of options buying after the market emerged as a target on the Reddit forum r/wallstreetbets. The moves “have been extreme in some cases and have had little fundamental justification,” Eugen Weinberg, an analyst at Commerzbank AG, said in a note.

“Retail investors who have been swapping tips on such information platforms have caused massive shifts in the prices of some shares,” Weinberg said. “We are confident that the influence of retail investors on silver will not last all that long, and that ultimately industrial and institutional demand will be the key factor in the longer term.”



Still, “in the very short term, I would think people would be cautious about holding a short in precious metals, irrespective of the fundamental view/what other markets are doing,” said Marcus Garvey, head of metals and bulks commodity strategy at Macquarie Group Ltd.

Comments about the metal began appearing Wednesday on the investor board that’s now famous for driving up GameStop Corp. shares this week. They centered on conspiracy theories long-held by the fringes of the precious metals world, alleging the metal’s price is suppressed by banks and the government to mask inflation.



If there’s another short squeeze, “I think it will be fairly muted,” said Jason Teed, Director of Research at Flexible Plan Investments Ltd. “A short squeeze on a mid-cap stock with heavy short interest is one thing, but the commodity markets are extremely vast.”

Spot silver rose 1.8% to $26.98 an ounce at 3:32 p.m. in New York. Futures for March delivery rose 3.8% to settle at $26.914 an ounce. Gold for immediate delivery rose as much as 1.8% before trading little changed. The Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index was up 0.3%.

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Reddit Crew May Find Commodities Harder After Roiling Silver Silver Options Market Volume Surges on Reddit-Fueled Swings Silver Is the Latest Market Hit by Reddit Day-Trader Frenzy


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